It feels a bit trite of me to make many of these criticisms when the "proper" way, really, would be to get involved with the project and attempt to engage devel

It feels a bit trite of me to make many of these criticisms when the "proper" way, really, would be to get involved with the project and attempt to engage developers directly. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to contribute in a meaningful way (i.e., code), and I'm very much of the opinion that people who write the code get to make the decisions. That said, it really does seem to me like ZF suffers from a general lack of engagement. There are surprisingly few developers involved in it, and those that are there quite obviously have their heads screwed on the right way around. It's a rare post from mwop that isn't useful/insightful in some way. I've watched a little from the sidelines, in IRC and lurking the dev list, and it did seem like all the goals were exciting and progressive. So, having come into the game a bit late, I don't really get where it went wrong. I didn't want to throw out names of alternative frameworks in the article, people are obviously mentioning Symfony and that's clearly high quality, but LoicProcrast's work on Photon has me tremendously excited. It's undeployable for me (right now), but in side-by-side comparison to ZF2 it makes many of the ZF issues exceptionally stark.