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I found one assertion so true: Cloud is just someone-else's computer.

by mrjin 3y ago

gchamonlive 3y ago
Which is exactly what you want. You don't want user to access you laptop.
- mrjin 3y ago
  Not exactly. I don't want to get into the situation that there is nothing I can do when it's down neither.
  - gchamonlive 3y ago
    You don't have to if you plan your disaster recovery scenarios correctly.
  - kynetic 3y ago
    Depends really. I am the entire ops team for a non-profit volunteer org, I host their services on the cloud specifically so when something fails I don't have to do anything. Would much rather have a cloud computing company's ops team working to fix the issue instead and we'll just pay our monthly dues. The same can be said of many smaller companies where uptime can be maintained cheaper and more consistently by offloading ops work to a cloud computing company.
  - verdverm 3y ago
    You still have outages when you run your own hardware and systems. What would that look like for your company compared to the cloud?
intelVISA 3y ago
The cloud is just digital feudalism, except we even tricked people into selling their own hardware willingly thinking it was 'smart'.
- dijit 3y ago
  > digital feudalism Can I steal this? I think it's really apt.
  - intelVISA 3y ago
    of course; doubtless many others have observed the same reality of cloud compute
handsclean 3y ago
And grocery stores are just selling somebody else’s corn, but it’s that or become a farmer.
- madmulita 3y ago
  You mean that they can make the corn unavailable in the middle of my dinner?
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Serverless and cloud servers can both do that.
keyle 3y ago
I might blow your mind if I said that serverless runs on servers?
- re-thc 3y ago
  It's read server less i.e on less servers not 0.
- fragmede 3y ago
  server-fewer just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely
- dpkirchner 3y ago
  Software is not actually soft.
  - dijit 3y ago
    Eh, this is a colloqualism I can get behind, though "firm"-ware is actually just a different type of software. "Hardware" meaning that it's very inflexible, "software" meaning that it is comparatively flexible, "wetware" meaning that it inherently lacks order. ;)

I found one assertion so true: Cloud is just someone-else's computer.

by mrjin 3y ago

I found one assertion so true: Cloud is just someone-else's computer.

gchamonlive 3y ago

Which is exactly what you want. You don't want user to access you laptop.

mrjin 3y ago
Not exactly. I don't want to get into the situation that there is nothing I can do when it's down neither.
- gchamonlive 3y ago
  You don't have to if you plan your disaster recovery scenarios correctly.
- kynetic 3y ago
  Depends really. I am the entire ops team for a non-profit volunteer org, I host their services on the cloud specifically so when something fails I don't have to do anything. Would much rather have a cloud computing company's ops team working to fix the issue instead and we'll just pay our monthly dues. The same can be said of many smaller companies where uptime can be maintained cheaper and more consistently by offloading ops work to a cloud computing company.
- verdverm 3y ago
  You still have outages when you run your own hardware and systems. What would that look like for your company compared to the cloud?

intelVISA 3y ago

The cloud is just digital feudalism, except we even tricked people into selling their own hardware willingly thinking it was 'smart'.

dijit 3y ago
> digital feudalism Can I steal this? I think it's really apt.
- intelVISA 3y ago
  of course; doubtless many others have observed the same reality of cloud compute

handsclean 3y ago

And grocery stores are just selling somebody else’s corn, but it’s that or become a farmer.

madmulita 3y ago
You mean that they can make the corn unavailable in the middle of my dinner?
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Serverless and cloud servers can both do that.

keyle 3y ago

I might blow your mind if I said that serverless runs on servers?

re-thc 3y ago
It's read server less i.e on less servers not 0.
fragmede 3y ago
server-fewer just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely
dpkirchner 3y ago
Software is not actually soft.
- dijit 3y ago
  Eh, this is a colloqualism I can get behind, though "firm"-ware is actually just a different type of software. "Hardware" meaning that it's very inflexible, "software" meaning that it is comparatively flexible, "wetware" meaning that it inherently lacks order. ;)