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Did GP say this? Argue against what a person says not against some easier-to-argue position.

ethanbond 3y ago
Did I say that every person in the gaming community is awful? Your comment that “not everyone is bad” is both obvious and meant to deflect criticism of the culture that obviously dominates the gaming world. As another commentator said, go join any FPS and turn on voice chat —- it has been this way at least since I got into online gaming 18 years ago. Based on my own experience and what makes it to the news, the situation is getting worse. Misogyny, racism, and verbal abuse has been the norm since day one. Now you have that plus swatting, doxxing, and affiliated real-world harassment. Nothing about this needs defending with platitudes about “not all gamers!” Everyone knows it’s not all gamers. That doesn’t mean, as you’re attempting to suggest, that the gaming universe doesn’t have serious and unique problems.
- rendall 3y ago
  > Did I say that every person in the gaming community is awful? No, and no one said you did. For the second time, argue what someone says. > Your comment that “not everyone is bad” Here you even put quotes around something no one wrote.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    You did actually accuse me of "forgetting that a group is not its worst members," which would indeed be tantamount to saying everyone in the gaming community is awful. Anyway thank you for the pointer that groups are groups, I guess? Not sure what you were trying to add to the conversation.
    - rendall 3y ago
      > Not sure what you were trying to add to the conversation. That is disappointing. There is one common factor with all of the toxic communities, forums and chat rooms that formed your impression of "the gaming universe" over 18 years. When you figure out what that common factor is, you will definitely find the many non-toxic, welcoming and inclusive gaming communities out there.
      - ethanbond 3y ago
        Lol, such wisdom to impart. Thank you!
        rendall 3y ago
        You're welcome. By the way the police announced that the death threats came from a Unity employee and not from a member of the "gaming community". https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat-offices-closed-pricing-change https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat...

Did I say that every person in the gaming community is awful? Your comment that “not everyone is bad” is both obvious and meant to deflect criticism of the culture that obviously dominates the gaming world. As another commentator said, go join any FPS and turn on voice chat —- it has been this way at least since I got into online gaming 18 years ago. Based on my own experience and what makes it to the news, the situation is getting worse. Misogyny, racism, and verbal abuse has been the norm since day one. Now you have that plus swatting, doxxing, and affiliated real-world harassment. Nothing about this needs defending with platitudes about “not all gamers!” Everyone knows it’s not all gamers. That doesn’t mean, as you’re attempting to suggest, that the gaming universe doesn’t have serious and unique problems.

rendall 3y ago
> Did I say that every person in the gaming community is awful? No, and no one said you did. For the second time, argue what someone says. > Your comment that “not everyone is bad” Here you even put quotes around something no one wrote.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  You did actually accuse me of "forgetting that a group is not its worst members," which would indeed be tantamount to saying everyone in the gaming community is awful. Anyway thank you for the pointer that groups are groups, I guess? Not sure what you were trying to add to the conversation.
  - rendall 3y ago
    > Not sure what you were trying to add to the conversation. That is disappointing. There is one common factor with all of the toxic communities, forums and chat rooms that formed your impression of "the gaming universe" over 18 years. When you figure out what that common factor is, you will definitely find the many non-toxic, welcoming and inclusive gaming communities out there.
    - ethanbond 3y ago
      Lol, such wisdom to impart. Thank you!
      - rendall 3y ago
        You're welcome. By the way the police announced that the death threats came from a Unity employee and not from a member of the "gaming community". https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat-offices-closed-pricing-change https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat...