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TSA has caught 0 terrorists, meanwhile hundreds of TSA agents have been arrested. The entire thing is a complete disaster and failure.

screamingninja 3y ago
> TSA has caught 0 terrorists Where do you get these statistics? Is it a fact or a personal opinion?
- StanislavPetrov 3y ago
  The TSA has been in existence for more than 20 years now. Can you find a single case where a terrorist has been convicted as a result of the actions of the TSA?
- bagels 3y ago
  Certainly the TSA would have really ramped up the PR about how useful they are if they had some evidence?
  - llamaInSouth 3y ago
    Actually, airport employees are told not to talk about incidents that happen... probably the same with TSA
systemvoltage 3y ago
It also made air travel painful and more expensive. The overhead of TSA is not insignificant.
kibwen 3y ago
The TSA is a welfare program for veterans. However, this is America, so we can't just give people money because something something socialism, so we have to give them pretend make-work.
- KennyBlanken 3y ago
  The military is a welfare program for rural America - both via employing/housing/feeding hordes of poorly educated young white men as rank and file, but also employing all the people in the civilian sector who work for companies feeding the military's massive supply chain. We don't have a draft because we don't quite need one; we just force people into poverty and leave the military as the only escape route. If we had functioning social service programs, young men and women wouldn't enlist, and we wouldn't have enough "volunteers." Actual social services are buried in endless red tape, regulations, restrictions, and endless challenges and demands to justify their existence....while the Pentagon will probably never pass an audit and is essentially an open fire hose where one can just say "JERBS!" and everyone is happy. The farm bill is nearly as bad. And guess who screams the loudest when coastal states want money for help with public transit, housing, etc? Rural America, which sucks from the teat the hardest. And guess who the biggest single polluter / largest carbon generator in the world is? The US military.
  - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
    We don’t have a draft because we’re not in a major conflict, no?
zkg 3y ago
Dont you think that means its actually working?
- mplewis 3y ago
  The TSA is 95% ineffective when they are tested with simulations of real threats. They are not doing anything.
  - l33t7332273 3y ago
    How is that possible? The metal detectors and millimeter scanners are real at the very least, so I’d expect most weapons to be caught.
  - bradleybuda 3y ago
    It’s a jobs program, that we all pay for three times over (in cash, in inconvenience, and for an unlucky minority, in harassment or worse). And because it’s a jobs program, it’s politically invincible.
    - solardev 3y ago
      Maybe we should just pay for fake red team terrorists too. Even more jobs, and keeps the agents in top readiness. Basically airport Counterstrike.
- bagels 3y ago
  Not likely: https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881 https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-fin...
wpietri 3y ago
Or is it proof of how well the TSA works in scaring off terrorists? On a completely different note, I have tiger repellent for sale. I can prove it works extremely well in that I have not once seen a tiger loose anywhere around me.
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screamingninja 3y ago

> TSA has caught 0 terrorists Where do you get these statistics? Is it a fact or a personal opinion?

StanislavPetrov 3y ago
The TSA has been in existence for more than 20 years now. Can you find a single case where a terrorist has been convicted as a result of the actions of the TSA?
bagels 3y ago
Certainly the TSA would have really ramped up the PR about how useful they are if they had some evidence?
- llamaInSouth 3y ago
  Actually, airport employees are told not to talk about incidents that happen... probably the same with TSA

systemvoltage 3y ago

It also made air travel painful and more expensive. The overhead of TSA is not insignificant.

kibwen 3y ago

The TSA is a welfare program for veterans. However, this is America, so we can't just give people money because something something socialism, so we have to give them pretend make-work.

KennyBlanken 3y ago
The military is a welfare program for rural America - both via employing/housing/feeding hordes of poorly educated young white men as rank and file, but also employing all the people in the civilian sector who work for companies feeding the military's massive supply chain. We don't have a draft because we don't quite need one; we just force people into poverty and leave the military as the only escape route. If we had functioning social service programs, young men and women wouldn't enlist, and we wouldn't have enough "volunteers." Actual social services are buried in endless red tape, regulations, restrictions, and endless challenges and demands to justify their existence....while the Pentagon will probably never pass an audit and is essentially an open fire hose where one can just say "JERBS!" and everyone is happy. The farm bill is nearly as bad. And guess who screams the loudest when coastal states want money for help with public transit, housing, etc? Rural America, which sucks from the teat the hardest. And guess who the biggest single polluter / largest carbon generator in the world is? The US military.
- DiggyJohnson 3y ago
  We don’t have a draft because we’re not in a major conflict, no?

zkg 3y ago

Dont you think that means its actually working?

mplewis 3y ago
The TSA is 95% ineffective when they are tested with simulations of real threats. They are not doing anything.
- l33t7332273 3y ago
  How is that possible? The metal detectors and millimeter scanners are real at the very least, so I’d expect most weapons to be caught.
- bradleybuda 3y ago
  It’s a jobs program, that we all pay for three times over (in cash, in inconvenience, and for an unlucky minority, in harassment or worse). And because it’s a jobs program, it’s politically invincible.
  - solardev 3y ago
    Maybe we should just pay for fake red team terrorists too. Even more jobs, and keeps the agents in top readiness. Basically airport Counterstrike.
bagels 3y ago
Not likely: https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881 https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-fin...

wpietri 3y ago

Or is it proof of how well the TSA works in scaring off terrorists? On a completely different note, I have tiger repellent for sale. I can prove it works extremely well in that I have not once seen a tiger loose anywhere around me.

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