Doesn't obviate my point. Even if the Government bombs "us"... Who made the bombs? Brewed the explosives? Manufactured the fasteners? Built the loading equipmen

Doesn't obviate my point. Even if the Government bombs "us"... Who made the bombs? Brewed the explosives? Manufactured the fasteners? Built the loading equipment? Staffed the Armed Forces? We did. We do. We will continue to. Collective action on our part is indistinguishable from Government. It just so happens when you try to spawn a new one that doesn't have enough popular support, the response by the incumbent is to crush, delegitimize, and exemplify the consequences of so doing through the treatments applied to the uprisers. If you would oust the king, you damn well better be fully committed, and better well win. Because for them, to let you succeed or exist is a matter of existential importance.