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Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends

Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends and has used cannabis for a significant portion of my half-century on Earth, cannabis usage is proportional to mood instability in myself and my friends. I have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile when taking breaks.

mvdtnz 3y ago
> Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. This can be true at the same time that cannabis use disorder increases the likelihood of mental illness is true. These are not mutually exclusive.
- 01100011 3y ago
  Yes. I believe I said as much in the second half of my comment.
- wyclif 3y ago
  You just nailed the paradox at the heart of much cannabis legalization discourse. I don't think the general public understands the "not mutually exclusive" point.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  s/he said that.
manicennui 3y ago
I learned a new word: labile. "Apt or likely to change."
- jalino23 3y ago
  I didnt know that word before reading this too. is it grammatically correct to say "there is nothing more non-labile than a temporary code"
  - TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
    The opposite of labile is stabile. Probably a more common context for these words to occur is medicine, or more broadly toxicology, where you might have heard: Heat labile vs heat stabile
  - abdullahkhalids 3y ago
    The sentence is grammatically correct because as per the rules of English grammar the nouns/verbs/other parts of the speech are in the correct locations. The overall sentence is syntactically incorrect because you forgot to put a question mark at the end. The sentence is semantically correct (which you actually meant to ask), though with a better alternate, as explained by the sibling comment.
  - dgacmu 3y ago
    Maybe but it's awkward as heck because of the double negative. "Nothing less labile" sounds a lot better.
whompyjaw 3y ago
i appreciate you sharing this. ofc, it's only one anecdotal piece of evidence, but i have been a bit torn about my use of cannabis at times. i sometimes feel it maybe helps, but i wonder if that's just the short term side effects that seem to calm me, and the long term effects (even if only using once a month) make my emotions more unstable...
- LargeTomato 3y ago
  Bipolar, also a heavy cannabis user. Both can be true, weed can help with mood swings by numbing you out or shifting your mental state somewhere else. Weed can also be harmful because it numbs you, but harmful in a latent and subtle sort of way.
- rickydroll 3y ago
  I live with bipolar as well and have avoided cannabis use because when I did smoke it, I was severely depressed afterwards. Recently I had some dental work that did not go well and I was on one of the Oxy formulations for a few days to deal with pain. I had a bad reaction to the Oxy and I found that 5 mg pot gummy's in conjunction with Tylenol provided better pain relief. When the pain faded enough that I just needed Tylenol, I didn't experience the usual post use depression. I experiment with the gummy's afterwards and found that the depression post usage effect was still present. Something about using them as pain relief changed how my mind responded to THC.
semiquaver 3y ago
Anecdotal as well, but I’ve found the same to be true, through hard fought experience.
naasking 3y ago
> have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile when taking breaks. For sure, but that's an association. Which one actually caused the other? eg. perhaps you got into a state of mind that was less emotionally labile and so decided to take a break.
- jochem9 3y ago
  That's not my experience. Sometimes I don't use cannabis for a while and feel fine. Then, while still feeling fine I unexpectedly end up in a situation where I can smoke a joint. Maybe it shows up at a birthday party. The days after there is a noticable change in my emotion regulation (less stable, easily feeling down).
  - naasking 3y ago
    There are other confounders associated with parties though, like drinking, staying up late, talking with people leading to innate comparisons with one's own life, etc. all of which affect one's mood. I'm not entirely skeptical of the possibility of a cannabis effect, just saying not to be too hasty in generalizing.

mvdtnz 3y ago

> Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. This can be true at the same time that cannabis use disorder increases the likelihood of mental illness is true. These are not mutually exclusive.

01100011 3y ago
Yes. I believe I said as much in the second half of my comment.
wyclif 3y ago
You just nailed the paradox at the heart of much cannabis legalization discourse. I don't think the general public understands the "not mutually exclusive" point.
2-718-281-828 3y ago
s/he said that.

manicennui 3y ago

I learned a new word: labile. "Apt or likely to change."

jalino23 3y ago
I didnt know that word before reading this too. is it grammatically correct to say "there is nothing more non-labile than a temporary code"
- TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
  The opposite of labile is stabile. Probably a more common context for these words to occur is medicine, or more broadly toxicology, where you might have heard: Heat labile vs heat stabile
- abdullahkhalids 3y ago
  The sentence is grammatically correct because as per the rules of English grammar the nouns/verbs/other parts of the speech are in the correct locations. The overall sentence is syntactically incorrect because you forgot to put a question mark at the end. The sentence is semantically correct (which you actually meant to ask), though with a better alternate, as explained by the sibling comment.
- dgacmu 3y ago
  Maybe but it's awkward as heck because of the double negative. "Nothing less labile" sounds a lot better.

whompyjaw 3y ago

i appreciate you sharing this. ofc, it's only one anecdotal piece of evidence, but i have been a bit torn about my use of cannabis at times. i sometimes feel it maybe helps, but i wonder if that's just the short term side effects that seem to calm me, and the long term effects (even if only using once a month) make my emotions more unstable...

LargeTomato 3y ago
Bipolar, also a heavy cannabis user. Both can be true, weed can help with mood swings by numbing you out or shifting your mental state somewhere else. Weed can also be harmful because it numbs you, but harmful in a latent and subtle sort of way.
rickydroll 3y ago
I live with bipolar as well and have avoided cannabis use because when I did smoke it, I was severely depressed afterwards. Recently I had some dental work that did not go well and I was on one of the Oxy formulations for a few days to deal with pain. I had a bad reaction to the Oxy and I found that 5 mg pot gummy's in conjunction with Tylenol provided better pain relief. When the pain faded enough that I just needed Tylenol, I didn't experience the usual post use depression. I experiment with the gummy's afterwards and found that the depression post usage effect was still present. Something about using them as pain relief changed how my mind responded to THC.

semiquaver 3y ago

Anecdotal as well, but I’ve found the same to be true, through hard fought experience.

naasking 3y ago

> have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile when taking breaks. For sure, but that's an association. Which one actually caused the other? eg. perhaps you got into a state of mind that was less emotionally labile and so decided to take a break.

jochem9 3y ago
That's not my experience. Sometimes I don't use cannabis for a while and feel fine. Then, while still feeling fine I unexpectedly end up in a situation where I can smoke a joint. Maybe it shows up at a birthday party. The days after there is a noticable change in my emotion regulation (less stable, easily feeling down).
- naasking 3y ago
  There are other confounders associated with parties though, like drinking, staying up late, talking with people leading to innate comparisons with one's own life, etc. all of which affect one's mood. I'm not entirely skeptical of the possibility of a cannabis effect, just saying not to be too hasty in generalizing.