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And how long will my windows laptop, or linux laptop receive updates? Answer: Basically forever. Google is playing the game of "See, we got everyone in mobile

And how long will my windows laptop, or linux laptop receive updates? Answer: Basically forever. Google is playing the game of "See, we got everyone in mobile to think 3 years of updates is good. Maybe we can do the same with laptops?" 10 years is good, but frankly for a laptop built on linux it's an embarrassment. If google would instead support a standard distro like debian we'd see way better support. (but then, they couldn't track everything as easily).

sneak 3y ago
"basically forever" is only true in Mac-land now because of the recent architectural switch. Apple was dropping support for specific Intel microarchitectures with each release for a while there. Now that the future is ARM, these machines will be supported for a long time. Not sure how long the Intel Macbook Pros from 2020 will be. I bet it's not another 8 years. 2016 is an important cutoff because it is when they introduced the T1 boot security chip. Some future macOS will drop support for everything before these machines, which will permanently evaporate the concept of a hackintosh.
- cogman10 3y ago
  Agreed. Right before your comment I pulled mac from the list. I was thinking of apple's iphone support being pretty good in the mobile arena and conflating that with their non-mobile support. After double checking to see what's going on with old hardware, it became really clear that apple doesn't support their older laptops.
mmwelt 3y ago
Things are changing with Windows. Windows 10 will only be supported until 14 Oct 2025[1], and Windows 11 explicitly does not support some relatively recent hardware configurations, e.g. 7th generation Intel processors[2]. [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows... [2] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-...

sneak 3y ago

"basically forever" is only true in Mac-land now because of the recent architectural switch. Apple was dropping support for specific Intel microarchitectures with each release for a while there. Now that the future is ARM, these machines will be supported for a long time. Not sure how long the Intel Macbook Pros from 2020 will be. I bet it's not another 8 years. 2016 is an important cutoff because it is when they introduced the T1 boot security chip. Some future macOS will drop support for everything before these machines, which will permanently evaporate the concept of a hackintosh.

cogman10 3y ago
Agreed. Right before your comment I pulled mac from the list. I was thinking of apple's iphone support being pretty good in the mobile arena and conflating that with their non-mobile support. After double checking to see what's going on with old hardware, it became really clear that apple doesn't support their older laptops.

mmwelt 3y ago

Things are changing with Windows. Windows 10 will only be supported until 14 Oct 2025[1], and Windows 11 explicitly does not support some relatively recent hardware configurations, e.g. 7th generation Intel processors[2]. [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows... [2] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-...