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Just a friendly reminder that JSTOR is one of those "non-profits" that leech public monies through universities among others by demanding payment to access publ

Just a friendly reminder that JSTOR is one of those "non-profits" that leech public monies through universities among others by demanding payment to access publicly funded research. In the process JSTOR drove Aaron Swartz to suicide. Academic publishing is rotten to the core, including the "non-profits". It is detrimental to science and human progress and leeches off countless billions of public funds to do so.

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fsckboy 3y ago
If I make a contract that entitles me to income, and you set about trying to undermine it and my income, and I attempt to enforce the contract, and you really don't like that, I hope you don't blame me for your suicide, because it's not on me. here come the downvotes cuz some people can't handle the truth. I'm entirely sympathetic to Aaron's mental illness because I was raised in a way that gave something similar to me too. Luckily my crash worked out better. Aaron's parents hold him up as a martyr, and I (with no direct knowledge) suspect they might have had a hand in making him behave like a martyr, because I know just what it's like. By the way, framing this as "good vs evil" and Aaron was good, and he did a good thing, while you don't yourself engage the world the way you are encouraging him to, is the root of the actual evil. The world isn't black and white, it's many shades (and colors) and lighting yourself on fire or encouraging somebody else to is rarely the right way to address problems you see.
- mathisfun123 3y ago
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  - fsckboy 3y ago
    I'm standing up for acknowledging and treating mental illness.
    - mathisfun123 3y ago
      acknowledging and treating mental illness doesn't include potential jail time for the mentally ill
      - fsckboy 3y ago
        failing to acknowledge mental illness after a suicide isn't helpful either
- didntknowya 3y ago
  an eye for an eye is fair enough. but in his case though i think most people felt justice was hugely disproportionate- and only because they wanted to make an example out of a vulnerable person, just to protect their profit.
lolinder 3y ago
JSTOR did not press charges against Aaron Swartz. They settled out of court a year and a half before his suicide and before he was even indicted. JSTOR's subsequent involvement in the case was under subpoena. Academic publishing is corrupt and broken, but the facts can speak for themselves without needing to be exaggerated.
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
  I misread "before his suicide" as "after" and thought I just casually came across one of the most quietly horrifying sentences put to paper

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fsckboy 3y ago

If I make a contract that entitles me to income, and you set about trying to undermine it and my income, and I attempt to enforce the contract, and you really don't like that, I hope you don't blame me for your suicide, because it's not on me. here come the downvotes cuz some people can't handle the truth. I'm entirely sympathetic to Aaron's mental illness because I was raised in a way that gave something similar to me too. Luckily my crash worked out better. Aaron's parents hold him up as a martyr, and I (with no direct knowledge) suspect they might have had a hand in making him behave like a martyr, because I know just what it's like. By the way, framing this as "good vs evil" and Aaron was good, and he did a good thing, while you don't yourself engage the world the way you are encouraging him to, is the root of the actual evil. The world isn't black and white, it's many shades (and colors) and lighting yourself on fire or encouraging somebody else to is rarely the right way to address problems you see.

mathisfun123 3y ago
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- fsckboy 3y ago
  I'm standing up for acknowledging and treating mental illness.
  - mathisfun123 3y ago
    acknowledging and treating mental illness doesn't include potential jail time for the mentally ill
    - fsckboy 3y ago
      failing to acknowledge mental illness after a suicide isn't helpful either
didntknowya 3y ago
an eye for an eye is fair enough. but in his case though i think most people felt justice was hugely disproportionate- and only because they wanted to make an example out of a vulnerable person, just to protect their profit.

lolinder 3y ago

JSTOR did not press charges against Aaron Swartz. They settled out of court a year and a half before his suicide and before he was even indicted. JSTOR's subsequent involvement in the case was under subpoena. Academic publishing is corrupt and broken, but the facts can speak for themselves without needing to be exaggerated.

hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
I misread "before his suicide" as "after" and thought I just casually came across one of the most quietly horrifying sentences put to paper