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The first things that come to mind are 1) why would Google steal this instead of bringing Oz onto the team, which assumes he wanted to work for Google) 2) wha
by pedalpete 3y ago
The first things that come to mind are
1) why would Google steal this instead of bringing Oz onto the team, which assumes he wanted to work for Google)
2) what can we as a community do to support Oz .
Oz, if you're reading this, you're obviously a very capable person, how do you think we can support you. Not just in relation to MidiBlocks, but beyond. That is just one project, I'm sure you've got more in you, if you want to pursue other things.
- lmoroney 3y agoIt wasn't stolen. See my above statement. We supported Oz in the ways that we could.
- romanhn 3y agoWith a big company like Google you can't just randomly hire someone without putting them through the rigorous interview process that can be months long (been there, done that), accomplishments or not (see the Homebrew dude).
- rmbyrro 3y agoThey have thousands of contractors and consultants that don't go through this process. That's not a valid reason.
- dappermanneke 3y agoof course not, you have to acquire their LLC to let them skip the interview process. so building stuff does count, but only if done commercially
- romanhn 3y agoFYI, it is incredibly common to subject acquihired employees to the same interviews, and extend offers only to those that pass. This is especially true at FAANG.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y agoSo if John Carmack, Guido, Rich Hickey, Donald Knuth wanted a job, they would first have to leet code like everyone else? The reason the failure to invert a binary tree story was notable was because the dude invented Homebrew. He was supposed to enter though the back door, but someone screwed up and made him go through the regular mechanism.
- romanhn 3y agoAt the extreme edges of course there are exceptions. I think we can agree that this is not the case here?
- chaps 3y agoSorry bud, I strongly disagree. This feels like an exception'd be warranted.
- romanhn 3y agoTo be clear, I am not passing judgment on Oz - I think his accomplishments are impressive, all the more so given his day-to-day challenges. And I'm not at all a fan of the Leetcode interviewing culture either. My point was that Oz is not Carmack, Knuth, etc, so wouldn't fall into the exception bucket that Google cares about (unlike you or me). There are usually well-meaning reasons behind these processes, regardless how well they turn out.
- no_wizard 3y agoFor this piece of tech, he is Carmack. He is Knuth. He deserves respect for the work he’s done in this problem space, it actually is gaming changing the way it works. Why disrespect what’s been achieved here?
- NalNezumi 3y ago>There are usually well-meaning reasons behind these processes, regardless how well they turn out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
- exabrial 3y agoGotta answer dem 1337 code questions. In a previous life on a job site, the term was called measuring dicks but I digress.
- midnitewarrior 3y agoIt's not "Google", it's people on project teams looking to elevate their careers. There's greed, credit, ego, and notoriety at stake, and sharing it with others is not a priority for many. "Google" is only going to care if it affects Legal or PR. If you want Google to care, this is going to need a lot more exposure. It will also be really bad for the people at Google responsible for this situation if this gets too much attention.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoIt is Google in that it enables, fosters, incentivizes, rewards culture exactly like that.