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Did you misread my comment? Texas has an isolated grid. They can't buy or export power. This causes grid overloads. People have ended up freezing and dying in

Did you misread my comment? Texas has an isolated grid. They can't buy or export power. This causes grid overloads. People have ended up freezing and dying in heat waves due to power outages. You said "maybe it ok, maybe it saves money even if there are catastrophes, but I don't even know what the money is like". Why would you say that a terrible power grid induces crisis is ok at all, let alone when you don't even know how the money breaks down?

jamiek88 3y ago
Thank you. This is precisely what I wanted to reply but didn’t trust myself last night to not get in trouble with dang. He is the one who specifically brought up profits as a potential reason to accept catastrophe then got all offended and aggressive, name calling etc when people challenged this. Even going as far as to deny bringing profits into it THEN admitting he had no idea of the numbers but STILL doubling down on the ‘don’t believe your lying eyes about what I wrote’. I genuinely questioned whether it was just me until I checked back in the thread this morning.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  If I'm somehow being 'offended and aggressive' you are free to copy and paste whichever quote(s) from my previous comments to prove this? So far as I can tell you have not done so, and, judging from appearances, the one writing offended and aggressive comments is not me.
  - jamiek88 3y ago
    You edited your posts, thank you for realising you'd gone too far. You used the words 'edgy' and 'pathetic' amongst others. I'm sure the edit history is available to mods if you wanna go there. I will no longer engage, you aren't doing it in good faith and you have lied several times on this thread alone.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      Okay then show the proof? Or at least type out the quoted sentences that you remember with 'edgy' and 'pathetic'? And then any passing reader can email dang to confirm if that's in a past comment revision, like you said? If your unwilling to put in that basic effort after making such an accusation, then it seems self-defeating, plus no one would trust it. I do sometimes use 'edgy', so maybe that is possible, but I really don't think I've ever called anyone 'pathetic', so this seems like a lame accusation. (As a sidenote I don't even remember for my own comments made 48 hours ago how I edited them or what words changed after, so it's pretty astonishing that another user is keeping track.)
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MichaelZuo 3y ago
Well this seems a bit too snarky and not in good faith so I'm not going to substantially respond any further. I wasn't too impressed with the last conversation I had with you, Cyberdildonics, and at best it seems as if your objecting to your own hasty paraphrase of my comment so I don't see how this could benefit any passing reader either.
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  All I see here is you avoiding backing up anything you are saying, even after you edited your comments. You basically said 'what if it saves money' when discussing multiple state wide crises. Saying 'what if' isn't an argument in the first place, now you're avoiding confronting what you said completely.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Again, these are your own rambling paraphrases, of course I don't need to 'back up' another user's comments.
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      These were your own comments, there is nothing rambling here. It is A to B to C. If you could confront the topic instead of avoiding it with names and insults I think you would have already.
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        No, they are your comments, period. If you had included even a single exact quote from me, that would be different, going by HN norms. Trying to argue around this fact is pretty odd and it's unclear what the intention is. You are also free to contact any HN user you trust and confirm whether I'm making this up or not?
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pfdietz 3y ago
ERCOT, in fact, has several DC interconnects to other grids. The DC part is crucial: the grids do not have to be synchronized.

jamiek88 3y ago

Thank you. This is precisely what I wanted to reply but didn’t trust myself last night to not get in trouble with dang. He is the one who specifically brought up profits as a potential reason to accept catastrophe then got all offended and aggressive, name calling etc when people challenged this. Even going as far as to deny bringing profits into it THEN admitting he had no idea of the numbers but STILL doubling down on the ‘don’t believe your lying eyes about what I wrote’. I genuinely questioned whether it was just me until I checked back in the thread this morning.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
If I'm somehow being 'offended and aggressive' you are free to copy and paste whichever quote(s) from my previous comments to prove this? So far as I can tell you have not done so, and, judging from appearances, the one writing offended and aggressive comments is not me.
- jamiek88 3y ago
  You edited your posts, thank you for realising you'd gone too far. You used the words 'edgy' and 'pathetic' amongst others. I'm sure the edit history is available to mods if you wanna go there. I will no longer engage, you aren't doing it in good faith and you have lied several times on this thread alone.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Okay then show the proof? Or at least type out the quoted sentences that you remember with 'edgy' and 'pathetic'? And then any passing reader can email dang to confirm if that's in a past comment revision, like you said? If your unwilling to put in that basic effort after making such an accusation, then it seems self-defeating, plus no one would trust it. I do sometimes use 'edgy', so maybe that is possible, but I really don't think I've ever called anyone 'pathetic', so this seems like a lame accusation. (As a sidenote I don't even remember for my own comments made 48 hours ago how I edited them or what words changed after, so it's pretty astonishing that another user is keeping track.)
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MichaelZuo 3y ago

Well this seems a bit too snarky and not in good faith so I'm not going to substantially respond any further. I wasn't too impressed with the last conversation I had with you, Cyberdildonics, and at best it seems as if your objecting to your own hasty paraphrase of my comment so I don't see how this could benefit any passing reader either.

CyberDildonics 3y ago
All I see here is you avoiding backing up anything you are saying, even after you edited your comments. You basically said 'what if it saves money' when discussing multiple state wide crises. Saying 'what if' isn't an argument in the first place, now you're avoiding confronting what you said completely.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Again, these are your own rambling paraphrases, of course I don't need to 'back up' another user's comments.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    These were your own comments, there is nothing rambling here. It is A to B to C. If you could confront the topic instead of avoiding it with names and insults I think you would have already.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      No, they are your comments, period. If you had included even a single exact quote from me, that would be different, going by HN norms. Trying to argue around this fact is pretty odd and it's unclear what the intention is. You are also free to contact any HN user you trust and confirm whether I'm making this up or not?
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pfdietz 3y ago

ERCOT, in fact, has several DC interconnects to other grids. The DC part is crucial: the grids do not have to be synchronized.