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I'm waiting for a 'stupid' electric car, without all that high-tech spyware bullshit - a steering wheel, few pedals, and a gear shifter, without touch-sensitiv

by myshpa 3y ago

I'm waiting for a 'stupid' electric car, without all that high-tech spyware bullshit - a steering wheel, few pedals, and a gear shifter, without touch-sensitive features or needless complexities - dashboard / user-friendly interface, favoring tactile buttons and dials over large touch displays - basic climate control, with traditional knobs for temperature and fan settings - a basic radio system, no need for expansive touchscreens or intricate systems - ABS/ASR, side assist, and parking assist In essence, I want the eco-friendly benefits of an electric car, combined with the straightforward design and functionality of traditional vehicles.

Lio 3y ago
You’ll be waiting a long time. The manufacturers are acting as a surveillance cartel. If they all spy on you there’s no way to opt out without a change in privacy legislation.
r053bud 3y ago
I don't think we are ever going back...Manufacturers have seen what they can get away with
greggsy 3y ago
My other daily driver is one of the last models of <brand> that doesn’t include any consumer computers. There’s a generic computer under the hood for engine management, but the UX is all beautiful vacuum fluorescent numbers that can de dialled down all at once. I recently test drove a car with four displays that seems to be sourced from different manufacturers - there was no consistency of UX. I told the salesman that I wasn’t interested in purchasing a 2 ton appliance that was unlikely to receive patching beyond 5 years.
VoodooJuJu 3y ago
I fear we'll never get these, not even for ICE cars.
wombat-man 3y ago
Yeah, the least bad EV as far as I can tell is a Bolt EUV. But I think what I really want is an EV that looks like a regular car. I don't want something that looks like a space ship and has big screens inside it.
ManuelKiessling 3y ago
While not spot on, have a look at the smart fortwo or smart forfour, IF you don’t need a lot of range. It’s the perfect electric city car, and it’s basically “analog” from a UX perspective.
r00fus 3y ago
I have a 2017 Ford Focus without a 4G cell connection (came with 3G, which is no longer supported) - no tracking. It works fine - has physical dials/switches for most things, it does have a screen for backup camera and CarPlay and the like. It doesn't have parking assist or any sort of lane keeping or autopilot. Seats 5, but not a lot of trunk space. Only issue is it has a 110mi range which is fine for my commute or going short distances out of town. If you want something like this find an older EV, and disconnect the cell modem.

by myshpa 3y ago

Lio 3y ago

You’ll be waiting a long time. The manufacturers are acting as a surveillance cartel. If they all spy on you there’s no way to opt out without a change in privacy legislation.

r053bud 3y ago

I don't think we are ever going back...Manufacturers have seen what they can get away with

greggsy 3y ago

My other daily driver is one of the last models of <brand> that doesn’t include any consumer computers. There’s a generic computer under the hood for engine management, but the UX is all beautiful vacuum fluorescent numbers that can de dialled down all at once. I recently test drove a car with four displays that seems to be sourced from different manufacturers - there was no consistency of UX. I told the salesman that I wasn’t interested in purchasing a 2 ton appliance that was unlikely to receive patching beyond 5 years.

VoodooJuJu 3y ago

I fear we'll never get these, not even for ICE cars.

wombat-man 3y ago

Yeah, the least bad EV as far as I can tell is a Bolt EUV. But I think what I really want is an EV that looks like a regular car. I don't want something that looks like a space ship and has big screens inside it.

ManuelKiessling 3y ago

While not spot on, have a look at the smart fortwo or smart forfour, IF you don’t need a lot of range. It’s the perfect electric city car, and it’s basically “analog” from a UX perspective.

r00fus 3y ago

I have a 2017 Ford Focus without a 4G cell connection (came with 3G, which is no longer supported) - no tracking. It works fine - has physical dials/switches for most things, it does have a screen for backup camera and CarPlay and the like. It doesn't have parking assist or any sort of lane keeping or autopilot. Seats 5, but not a lot of trunk space. Only issue is it has a 110mi range which is fine for my commute or going short distances out of town. If you want something like this find an older EV, and disconnect the cell modem.