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HN audience, I apologize for this spread of misinformation by the parent, here is some information about it: > they rendered him ineligible for his perfectly v
by Xunjin 3y ago
HN audience, I apologize for this spread of misinformation by the parent, here is some information about it:
> they rendered him ineligible for his perfectly valid criticism of the electronic voting system.
Again, this is a lie, or denying reality:
Bolsonaro systematically attacked the Brazilian voting system, which he has been elected for thirty years (before becoming President).
In 2021, he used the State Television to spread lies about the voting system and saying that If the printed vote was denied by our Congress he will never touch in such subject, another lie by him[0].
In July 2022, he stated that he won the elections in the first turn, saying he had concrete proof about it, which he has never shown. Moreover, in the same month he called ambassadors from 70 countries to spread more lies and question the validity of the Brazilian vote machines[0], which rendered him convicted for Electoral crime. Here is an except from the Electoral Supreme Court Minister Benedito Gonçalves's referendum[1], a rough Google Translate:
"I consider the request to convict the first person investigated, Jair Messias Bolsonaro, partially valid for the practice of abuse of political power and misuse of media in the 2022 elections, due to his direct and personal responsibility for the illicit conduct carried out for the benefit of his candidacy for re-election. I declare your ineligibility for 8 years following the 2022 election."
Reference again in Brazilian Portuguese:
0. https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/relembre-vezes-em-que-jair-bolsonaro-questionou-o-sistema-eleitoral/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/relembre-vezes-em-que-...
1. https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2023/06/27/relator-vota-no-tse-para-tornar-bolsonaro-inelegivel.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2023/06/27/relator-vot...
- matheusmoreira 3y agoDon't apologize in the name of the brazilian people. You don't speak for all of us. You speak only for yourself, as do I. At least I'm humble enough not to decree what I say is the absolute truth.
- Xunjin 3y agoI'm based on facts, have shown/linked many references that prove what I'm saying. You keep spreading lies and/or denying reality. An Infectious Disease Doctor called Luana Araújo in a Congress Commission once said[0]: “We're discussing which edge of the flat Earth we're going to jump off.” That's literally your approach to discussing all matters in this thread. Reference: 0. https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2021/06/02/estamos-discutindo-de-que-borda-da-terra-plana-vamos-pular-diz-medica-sobre-tratamento-precoce.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2021/06/02/estamos-dis...
- matheusmoreira 3y agoNot only did you post links that don't actually disprove or deny anything I said, sometimes you posted links that actually enhanced my arguments. Your excerpt for example makes the persecution of Bolsonaro obvious to everyone on this site. "Abuse of political power"? What made up nonsense is this? That's ridiculous. It's just like the totally arbitrary fines and censorship they imposed on Google for the crime of posting a link on their own homepage. "Abuse of market position" they called it. It's painfully obvious that these judges wanted to destroy the guy. One judge even bragged about it in public. Unashamedly. Who's denying reality? Your posts border on gaslighting. The link you just posted is yet another example. I was a very vocal critic of Bolsonaro's handling of the pandemic during his mandate. So I actually agree with what Dr. Luana Araújo said in that news article. That's why I think it's hilarious that of all the dumb things he said and did he went down for his perfectly valid criticism of the electronic voting machines.
- Xunjin 3y agoAt least in the pandemic, you seem to be reasonable. In many posts, you have shown no knowledge of Law concepts and how our constitution works. I hope in the future, before you say a “judge is being a dictator”, you study about the matter. IANAL, and yet I'm capable to see how you don't know about the typical and atypical functions of each power in our Democracy. I hope this link could expand your superficial knowledge about the matter. https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/noticias/podem-os-juizes-legislar/3040265 https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/noticias/podem-os-juizes-legisl...
- matheusmoreira 3y agoWhat constitution? The one the judges selectively apply? The one that explicitly says the political censorship they perpetrated is unconstitutional? You're apparently incapable of seeing the fact that the judges have essentially given themselves power to legislate, investigate and judge. They've been doing it ever since one particular publication attacked them and they show no signs of stopping any time soon. It was painfully obvious during the election but it started much earlier than that. https://www.conjur.com.br/2022-nov-27/inquerito-fake-news-stf-relacao-justica https://www.conjur.com.br/2022-nov-27/inquerito-fake-news-st... If you can't see this, it's pointless to continue this thread.