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I delete my comments on reddit because it's such a toxic place. Trolls will read through past comments and twist them to harass even more. I purge all my commen

I delete my comments on reddit because it's such a toxic place. Trolls will read through past comments and twist them to harass even more. I purge all my comments that have low upvotes and leave the ones other people find useful. But a lot of the time downvotes don't mean you are wrong or said something mean, it's the just stupidity of the masses or other people being mean. It's a love/hate relationship with that site.

biogene 3y ago
Somehow, I can't imagine how HN is any better. Reasonable comments are mass-downvoted when people disagree with you on seemingly hot button topics - blm, vaccines, musk, trump, immigration, lgbtq etc. I know many people who had to create new accounts because of this.
- spondylosaurus 3y ago
  Merely being downvoted isn't a form of harassment. The worst people on Reddit will DM you vile shit/threats and stalk you across various subreddits if they think you're a person worth targeting (particularly if you belong to one of those so-called "hot button" marginalized groups). Meanwhile HN doesn't even have a DM feature.
  - biogene 3y ago
    If you express a reasonable opinion that is even mildly positive, or even ambivalent about musk or trump you get mass downvoted, and people assume you completely lack integrity. I have seen this exact behaviour on HN for years, and the mods do nothing, and the bad-actors are often the long-term users with tons of karma. I'm not into conspiracies so I won't speculate as to the reasons. Anyway, that in and of itself doesn't bother me - The parent was trying to present a "holier than thou" attitude towards Reddit. I merely pointed out that HN is not all that great when it comes to that.
    - spondylosaurus 3y ago
      I assume people downvote you about Musk and Trump because they disagree with your takes and think you're not contributing anything interesting to the discussion. People are allowed to downvote. What would you propose mods do in that situation?
      - ghaff 3y ago
        Honestly, "everyone" knows there are acceptable boundaries of opinion in a lot of circles generally--including this one--that even nuanced takes cannot cross without bring out the knives. By and large, it makes sense to accept that and move on. You likely won't change anyone's mind and you'll just get upset.
      - biogene 3y ago
        Sure, someone could have a bad take, could be simply wrong, or simply have a different opinion. Why do you assume that I cannot differentiate between them?
    - leptons 3y ago
      >mildly positive, or even ambivalent about musk or trump you get mass downvoted, and people assume you completely lack integrity With the amount of time musk and trump have had in the spotlight and the awful shit they've objectively actually done, it should make people question your integrity if you are writing positively about them. Like it or not, downvotes are an expression of disapproval.
      - biogene 3y ago
        Most elections are about electing the least-bad person. Bush started wars, Biden/Obama dropped bombs on civilians (even US citizens), tortured detainees, trump.. well we all know what trump did. Most voters either voted for biden or trump, both have done "awful shit". Every politician has done "awful shit". If you can't find a single positive impact of trump's (or any politician) policies or a single positive thing musk has done, consider that you maybe be in an echo chamber yourself, or you're just deluding yourself into thinking you have some kind of moral high-ground.

biogene 3y ago

Somehow, I can't imagine how HN is any better. Reasonable comments are mass-downvoted when people disagree with you on seemingly hot button topics - blm, vaccines, musk, trump, immigration, lgbtq etc. I know many people who had to create new accounts because of this.

spondylosaurus 3y ago
Merely being downvoted isn't a form of harassment. The worst people on Reddit will DM you vile shit/threats and stalk you across various subreddits if they think you're a person worth targeting (particularly if you belong to one of those so-called "hot button" marginalized groups). Meanwhile HN doesn't even have a DM feature.
- biogene 3y ago
  If you express a reasonable opinion that is even mildly positive, or even ambivalent about musk or trump you get mass downvoted, and people assume you completely lack integrity. I have seen this exact behaviour on HN for years, and the mods do nothing, and the bad-actors are often the long-term users with tons of karma. I'm not into conspiracies so I won't speculate as to the reasons. Anyway, that in and of itself doesn't bother me - The parent was trying to present a "holier than thou" attitude towards Reddit. I merely pointed out that HN is not all that great when it comes to that.
  - spondylosaurus 3y ago
    I assume people downvote you about Musk and Trump because they disagree with your takes and think you're not contributing anything interesting to the discussion. People are allowed to downvote. What would you propose mods do in that situation?
    - ghaff 3y ago
      Honestly, "everyone" knows there are acceptable boundaries of opinion in a lot of circles generally--including this one--that even nuanced takes cannot cross without bring out the knives. By and large, it makes sense to accept that and move on. You likely won't change anyone's mind and you'll just get upset.
    - biogene 3y ago
      Sure, someone could have a bad take, could be simply wrong, or simply have a different opinion. Why do you assume that I cannot differentiate between them?
  - leptons 3y ago
    >mildly positive, or even ambivalent about musk or trump you get mass downvoted, and people assume you completely lack integrity With the amount of time musk and trump have had in the spotlight and the awful shit they've objectively actually done, it should make people question your integrity if you are writing positively about them. Like it or not, downvotes are an expression of disapproval.
    - biogene 3y ago
      Most elections are about electing the least-bad person. Bush started wars, Biden/Obama dropped bombs on civilians (even US citizens), tortured detainees, trump.. well we all know what trump did. Most voters either voted for biden or trump, both have done "awful shit". Every politician has done "awful shit". If you can't find a single positive impact of trump's (or any politician) policies or a single positive thing musk has done, consider that you maybe be in an echo chamber yourself, or you're just deluding yourself into thinking you have some kind of moral high-ground.