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I might be wrong but I think this was a project originated by one of the branches of the US armed forces or security services? In which case, it should be pret

I might be wrong but I think this was a project originated by one of the branches of the US armed forces or security services? In which case, it should be pretty secure. Although, there's the obvious 'honeypot' concern. But maybe I'm thinking of another distro, that ran from RAM and didn't write anything to disk.

Synaesthesia 3y ago
I know the TOR project was started by the US navy, and that now I2Pnis the preferred method of browsing the darknet, because many people believe it has been compromised.
- beardog 3y ago
  In the same manner that parts of the NSA are interested in secure cryptography as opposed to breaking it, parts of the Navy were interested in anonymizing traffic as opposed to de-anonymizing.
- paravirtualized 3y ago
  > and that now I2Pnis the preferred method of browsing the darknet This is not true by any means. A "switch" to I2P never happened, and just a few months ago an exploit[1] that could deanonymize eepsites was published. Tor is still the only "method of browsing the darknet"; by most definitions. [1]: https://xeiaso.net/blog/CVE-2023-36325 https://xeiaso.net/blog/CVE-2023-36325
  - Synaesthesia 3y ago
    Ok, I haven’t tried it out in a while so thx
- brightlancer 3y ago
  The TOR software is likely no more compromised than GNU/Linux generally -- the TOR _network_ is likely compromised by flooding it with honeypot servers that can track users by monitoring origins and destinations.
cf100clunk 3y ago
Distrowatch is a good place to get a brief overview of pretty well every Linux distribution ever made, with links and a bit of background info on each: https://distrowatch.com/ https://distrowatch.com/
ranger_danger 3y ago
The Internet also originated from the US military, among many other things. So tired of this FUD.
- chickenpotpie 3y ago
  That's a false equivalency. The military invented a network that inspired the Internet. We're not all using ARPANET to send emails.
  - wrs 3y ago
    Not sure what you’re saying there…the Internet grew out of ARPANet, it’s not a separate thing. Is the oak tree “inspired” by the acorn?
    - chickenpotpie 3y ago
      I think that's an incorrect oversimplification. The Internet didn't grow from ARPANET like a seed grows into a tree. ARPANET didn't become bigger and bigger until it became the Internet. The Internet was the merger of many networks and many of them never communicated with any computer in ARPANET and we're developed with absolutely zero funding from the United States government.
      - wrs 3y ago
        I guess it’s a matter of interpretation. Of course every computer connected to the internet is not government-funded. But in this context we’re talking about the origin of the technology and protocols that allowed the network to exist at all. By the time the internet got bigger than ARPANet, CSNET, and NSFNET (all government funded), the protocols were pretty much settled, and that’s what everyone else’s network used to become part of the internet. If the government hadn’t gotten it to that point, there would be no internet.
  - selectodude 3y ago
    The DoD created TCP/IP.
kylebenzle 3y ago
Tails was "FUNDED" by the TOR project, which was started by the US Navy. So, not really...
daqhris 3y ago
I can't validate if you are wrong or not. Just bring to your attention that one of their marketing slogan is "Amnesia" and "Persistent Storage on a USB stick". https://tails.net/about/index.en.html https://tails.net/about/index.en.html The 'honeypot' concern is somehow valid because full-on privacy on the internet is as hard to achieve as privacy in a public park. Only its user can determine if their online activities goes against the (legal/moral/financial) interests of the most technically-advanced nation on our planet.
- paravirtualized 3y ago
  The Tails team made the fantastic decision of modifying the Tor Browser, giving Tails users a unique fingerprint as opposed to regular Tor Browser users.

Synaesthesia 3y ago

I know the TOR project was started by the US navy, and that now I2Pnis the preferred method of browsing the darknet, because many people believe it has been compromised.

beardog 3y ago
In the same manner that parts of the NSA are interested in secure cryptography as opposed to breaking it, parts of the Navy were interested in anonymizing traffic as opposed to de-anonymizing.
paravirtualized 3y ago
> and that now I2Pnis the preferred method of browsing the darknet This is not true by any means. A "switch" to I2P never happened, and just a few months ago an exploit[1] that could deanonymize eepsites was published. Tor is still the only "method of browsing the darknet"; by most definitions. [1]: https://xeiaso.net/blog/CVE-2023-36325 https://xeiaso.net/blog/CVE-2023-36325
- Synaesthesia 3y ago
  Ok, I haven’t tried it out in a while so thx
brightlancer 3y ago
The TOR software is likely no more compromised than GNU/Linux generally -- the TOR _network_ is likely compromised by flooding it with honeypot servers that can track users by monitoring origins and destinations.

cf100clunk 3y ago

Distrowatch is a good place to get a brief overview of pretty well every Linux distribution ever made, with links and a bit of background info on each: https://distrowatch.com/ https://distrowatch.com/

ranger_danger 3y ago

The Internet also originated from the US military, among many other things. So tired of this FUD.

chickenpotpie 3y ago
That's a false equivalency. The military invented a network that inspired the Internet. We're not all using ARPANET to send emails.
- wrs 3y ago
  Not sure what you’re saying there…the Internet grew out of ARPANet, it’s not a separate thing. Is the oak tree “inspired” by the acorn?
  - chickenpotpie 3y ago
    I think that's an incorrect oversimplification. The Internet didn't grow from ARPANET like a seed grows into a tree. ARPANET didn't become bigger and bigger until it became the Internet. The Internet was the merger of many networks and many of them never communicated with any computer in ARPANET and we're developed with absolutely zero funding from the United States government.
    - wrs 3y ago
      I guess it’s a matter of interpretation. Of course every computer connected to the internet is not government-funded. But in this context we’re talking about the origin of the technology and protocols that allowed the network to exist at all. By the time the internet got bigger than ARPANet, CSNET, and NSFNET (all government funded), the protocols were pretty much settled, and that’s what everyone else’s network used to become part of the internet. If the government hadn’t gotten it to that point, there would be no internet.
- selectodude 3y ago
  The DoD created TCP/IP.

kylebenzle 3y ago

Tails was "FUNDED" by the TOR project, which was started by the US Navy. So, not really...

daqhris 3y ago

I can't validate if you are wrong or not. Just bring to your attention that one of their marketing slogan is "Amnesia" and "Persistent Storage on a USB stick". https://tails.net/about/index.en.html https://tails.net/about/index.en.html The 'honeypot' concern is somehow valid because full-on privacy on the internet is as hard to achieve as privacy in a public park. Only its user can determine if their online activities goes against the (legal/moral/financial) interests of the most technically-advanced nation on our planet.

paravirtualized 3y ago
The Tails team made the fantastic decision of modifying the Tor Browser, giving Tails users a unique fingerprint as opposed to regular Tor Browser users.