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The video is humourous to a certain degree but it does make a valid point that a lot of people don't understand about "western" food. Having traveled a lot and

The video is humourous to a certain degree but it does make a valid point that a lot of people don't understand about "western" food. Having traveled a lot and enjoying food of all kinds, even that slop as they call it, I think people don't really understand how much western ingredients have dominated the world wide cuisine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_food_plants_native_to_the_Americas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_food_plants_native_t... Some of the most popular world wide ones were only found in the Americas. Asian cuisine has seized on some of these to the point that people don't even realize they didn't exist in Asia 500ish years ago. I think the "only potatoes" comedian would find that if food ingredients was limited, it's not westerners that would be deprived. Much of the rest of the world would go back to rice and chickpeas. Those hot peppers that Asia is known for wouldn't have them at all.

keepamovin 3y ago
Thanks. I appreciate your perspective. I think it's accurate. I also think that there's been huge cross-pollination among cultures for all types of things: food, dress, language, music. To the point where the idea of "ownership" and therefore (that probably false notion of) "theft/appropriation" is ridiculous. It's like the Zen buddhist perspective on existence: everything is inherently empty of form because it's just a set of conditions arising from pre-existing causes, that themselves are...in an endless chain. So the idea of claiming any 1 particular little snapshot in the infinite graph as an island and saying "This is mine. We did this on our own!" is as ridiculous as Jeff Bezos saying he is a self-made man (of course his success is his own, but his achievements stood on the shoulders of the efforts of millions throughout time). In another sense I think there's definitely "disrespectful referencing" where people use a cherished part of another culture in a mocking way, but the weird thing is there's a lot less of that than the "appropriation-philes" would like you to believe. (or whatever you call those culture warriors from the ministry of love). I think the only disrespectful thing lying to try to misrepresent someone's enthusiastic/joyful/respectful/sincere reference/usage of some culture as something bad. The same way a bully fabricates a wrong as a pretext to start a fight, or an abuser tries to gaslight you into believing you "deserve" it because reasons: these people throwing around the term appropriation are just abusive bullies who are too cowardly to own their hostility honestly, and want to hide it as "justified" behind reasons, that end up being an abuse of the very cultures they merely pretend to protect. They are in effect, abusing the culture they say they are protecting, as a pretext to pick a fight to hurt and abuse others. It's crazy. But that's how that thing operates. Also, I checked your posts...did you figure out that Uber thing? I thought one counter could be, leave the door open / block it from closing until the driver accepts the ride. If they refuse to accept, then get out (the door is still open) and cancel it. Just trying to be helpful, I don't think it's a checkmate strategy but could give you something. I once lost a phone in an Uber, and Uber didn't didn't do anything. I didn't expect them to (strangely, right? My expectation was my phone would simply be swallowed into the void of accidental oops we don't know nothing), when in reality, connecting me to driver and having it passed back would be the easiest thing in the world as everything is tracked. I think we shouldn't accept the great convenience as a tradeoff to losing other expectations (like safety, security of valuables, etc). But sometimes I think we're expected to do just that. "The price we pay" some kind of subliminal subtext to the whole enterprise. But I don't think it should be that way.

keepamovin 3y ago

Thanks. I appreciate your perspective. I think it's accurate. I also think that there's been huge cross-pollination among cultures for all types of things: food, dress, language, music. To the point where the idea of "ownership" and therefore (that probably false notion of) "theft/appropriation" is ridiculous. It's like the Zen buddhist perspective on existence: everything is inherently empty of form because it's just a set of conditions arising from pre-existing causes, that themselves are...in an endless chain. So the idea of claiming any 1 particular little snapshot in the infinite graph as an island and saying "This is mine. We did this on our own!" is as ridiculous as Jeff Bezos saying he is a self-made man (of course his success is his own, but his achievements stood on the shoulders of the efforts of millions throughout time). In another sense I think there's definitely "disrespectful referencing" where people use a cherished part of another culture in a mocking way, but the weird thing is there's a lot less of that than the "appropriation-philes" would like you to believe. (or whatever you call those culture warriors from the ministry of love). I think the only disrespectful thing lying to try to misrepresent someone's enthusiastic/joyful/respectful/sincere reference/usage of some culture as something bad. The same way a bully fabricates a wrong as a pretext to start a fight, or an abuser tries to gaslight you into believing you "deserve" it because reasons: these people throwing around the term appropriation are just abusive bullies who are too cowardly to own their hostility honestly, and want to hide it as "justified" behind reasons, that end up being an abuse of the very cultures they merely pretend to protect. They are in effect, abusing the culture they say they are protecting, as a pretext to pick a fight to hurt and abuse others. It's crazy. But that's how that thing operates. Also, I checked your posts...did you figure out that Uber thing? I thought one counter could be, leave the door open / block it from closing until the driver accepts the ride. If they refuse to accept, then get out (the door is still open) and cancel it. Just trying to be helpful, I don't think it's a checkmate strategy but could give you something. I once lost a phone in an Uber, and Uber didn't didn't do anything. I didn't expect them to (strangely, right? My expectation was my phone would simply be swallowed into the void of accidental oops we don't know nothing), when in reality, connecting me to driver and having it passed back would be the easiest thing in the world as everything is tracked. I think we shouldn't accept the great convenience as a tradeoff to losing other expectations (like safety, security of valuables, etc). But sometimes I think we're expected to do just that. "The price we pay" some kind of subliminal subtext to the whole enterprise. But I don't think it should be that way.