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(As a french) I argue that it's better for physicians to have a way out to not give anything active to the patient who is adament they need a drug for their flu

by phh 3y ago

(As a french) I argue that it's better for physicians to have a way out to not give anything active to the patient who is adament they need a drug for their flu to be over faster. Also, placebo effect do work.

beebmam 3y ago
Stuff like this is why people are losing trust in medicine.
master-lincoln 3y ago
Oh, so then you are ok with those companies offering those placebos for immense prices and the insurance (aka the people) paying for that? You could just give some natural products as placebos that are not hurting trust in medicine by legitimizing quackery.
- phh 3y ago
  > Oh, so then you are ok with those companies offering those placebos for immense prices and the insurance (aka the people) paying for that? The price isn't immense though... We're speaking of like 3€ for a month of "treatment". I would definitely rather the state to pocket that money but for the placebo to work you need a bit of marketing, so I don't really know what's the best way. > You could just give some natural products as placebos that are not hurting trust in medicine by legitimizing quackery. homeopathics are completely natural products, since it's literally sugar...?
reedf1 3y ago
Doctors are just people, they are not gods. It is actually possible self-perscribe if you are well informed.
pella 3y ago
YES .. Genetic tests can predict when placebos may be the best medicine https://www.cell.com/trends/molecular-medicine/fulltext/S1471-4914(15)00043-X https://www.cell.com/trends/molecular-medicine/fulltext/S147... "Highlights •Predisposition to respond to placebo treatment may be in part a stable heritable trait. • Candidate placebo response pathways may interact with drugs to modify outcomes in both the placebo and drug treatment arms of clinical trials. • Genomic analysis of randomized placebo and no-treatment controlled trials are needed to fully realize the potential of the placebome."
secretsatan 3y ago
Strongly disagree, especially when they make a profit upselling me some useless placebo, if you can't fix it, don't sell me something that doesn't work, it should be fraud.

by phh 3y ago

beebmam 3y ago

Stuff like this is why people are losing trust in medicine.

master-lincoln 3y ago

Oh, so then you are ok with those companies offering those placebos for immense prices and the insurance (aka the people) paying for that? You could just give some natural products as placebos that are not hurting trust in medicine by legitimizing quackery.

phh 3y ago
> Oh, so then you are ok with those companies offering those placebos for immense prices and the insurance (aka the people) paying for that? The price isn't immense though... We're speaking of like 3€ for a month of "treatment". I would definitely rather the state to pocket that money but for the placebo to work you need a bit of marketing, so I don't really know what's the best way. > You could just give some natural products as placebos that are not hurting trust in medicine by legitimizing quackery. homeopathics are completely natural products, since it's literally sugar...?

reedf1 3y ago

Doctors are just people, they are not gods. It is actually possible self-perscribe if you are well informed.

pella 3y ago

YES .. Genetic tests can predict when placebos may be the best medicine https://www.cell.com/trends/molecular-medicine/fulltext/S1471-4914(15)00043-X https://www.cell.com/trends/molecular-medicine/fulltext/S147... "Highlights •Predisposition to respond to placebo treatment may be in part a stable heritable trait. • Candidate placebo response pathways may interact with drugs to modify outcomes in both the placebo and drug treatment arms of clinical trials. • Genomic analysis of randomized placebo and no-treatment controlled trials are needed to fully realize the potential of the placebome."

secretsatan 3y ago

Strongly disagree, especially when they make a profit upselling me some useless placebo, if you can't fix it, don't sell me something that doesn't work, it should be fraud.