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Right now if I don't like the working conditions I leave for a place that has better conditions. I've never had to take a long unpaid break because I don't stic

by zaphar 3y ago

Right now if I don't like the working conditions I leave for a place that has better conditions. I've never had to take a long unpaid break because I don't stick around long enough to burn out. I've done exactly this multiple times. I think most people could do this. I don't know why more of them don't. If they did working conditions would be across the board better. I don't think burnout is caused by companies most of the time. It's caused by the employee not taking care of themself. Will a manager abuse someones willingness to not leverage the power they have? Sure. Some managers are awful. They'll continue to be awful when the Union is in place. Just in a different way. You'll still be miserable under that manager. The solution is to make a plan to leave and start executing on it. The moment you make the plan you'll feel better.

lapcat 3y ago
> I've never had to take a long unpaid break The reader is expecting you to say, "because I only work for employeers with good working conditions", but... > because I don't stick around long enough to burn out. Well, ok, but how old are you, and do you believe that this strategy of musical chairs will continue to work for the rest of your life? It's a marathon, not a sprint. > If they did working conditions would be across the board better. Why do you think so? How exactly is that going to happen? What's the incentive to improve working conditions when employees just leave quickly, on purpose? Again, you didn't even claim that your new jobs have good working conditions.
- zaphar 3y ago
  It's not musical chairs. My average tenure is somewhere around 5 years. I've worked at companies for 7+ years without burning out or getting close to it. So yeah, I think it's a sustainable pace for quite a while. I'm also not a spring chicken anymore. I have 5 adult children. Why do you think so? How exactly is that going to happen? What's the incentive to improve working conditions when employees just leave quickly, on purpose? Again, you didn't even claim that your new jobs have good working conditions. Most of my jobs have had great working conditions. The few jobs that were short tenure were the ones that didn't. The incentive is that high turnover is harmful. Successful companies should look to keep people around for longer than a year. If they want to keep me for 5 or more then they'll have to provide an environment that I'll be willing to stick around for. There are companies that have done that and we have both benefited as a result. If enough people realize that they are valuable employees and treat their employer relationship that way I believe it can change the landscape. If you think it's hopeless and you aren't a valuable employee in the companies eye then that turns into a self fulfilling prophecy.

by zaphar 3y ago

lapcat 3y ago

> I've never had to take a long unpaid break The reader is expecting you to say, "because I only work for employeers with good working conditions", but... > because I don't stick around long enough to burn out. Well, ok, but how old are you, and do you believe that this strategy of musical chairs will continue to work for the rest of your life? It's a marathon, not a sprint. > If they did working conditions would be across the board better. Why do you think so? How exactly is that going to happen? What's the incentive to improve working conditions when employees just leave quickly, on purpose? Again, you didn't even claim that your new jobs have good working conditions.

zaphar 3y ago
It's not musical chairs. My average tenure is somewhere around 5 years. I've worked at companies for 7+ years without burning out or getting close to it. So yeah, I think it's a sustainable pace for quite a while. I'm also not a spring chicken anymore. I have 5 adult children. Why do you think so? How exactly is that going to happen? What's the incentive to improve working conditions when employees just leave quickly, on purpose? Again, you didn't even claim that your new jobs have good working conditions. Most of my jobs have had great working conditions. The few jobs that were short tenure were the ones that didn't. The incentive is that high turnover is harmful. Successful companies should look to keep people around for longer than a year. If they want to keep me for 5 or more then they'll have to provide an environment that I'll be willing to stick around for. There are companies that have done that and we have both benefited as a result. If enough people realize that they are valuable employees and treat their employer relationship that way I believe it can change the landscape. If you think it's hopeless and you aren't a valuable employee in the companies eye then that turns into a self fulfilling prophecy.