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The answer seems pretty straightforward. The web design firm has a license for their own commercial use, they do not have a license they can extend their *cli

The answer seems pretty straightforward. The web design firm has a license *for their own commercial use*, they do not have a license they can extend their *clients' ongoing commercial use.* You can design a site for your client using Proxima Nova, but your client, as a commercial entity, needs their own license to continue using it in the market as they gain value from its use. Edit: Found this in the Adobe Font Licensing FAQ (https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/using/font-licensing.html#act-own https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/using/font-licensing.html#act-...), issue settled: > Does my client need their own font license to use the designs? > No, not if you are creating graphics or documents that have rasterized or properly embedded font data, such as a PDF, JPEG, or PNG. > However, if your client needs to have the font installed to edit your design, they will need their own license, either through a Creative Cloud subscription or as a desktop license purchase. This is clearly a case of the second option.

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Mystery-Machine 3y ago
No, it is not. It is clearly not. "needs to have the fknt installed to edit your design" is referring to use the font on a computer, through some app. There's no mention of a client using the font on their website.
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danbruc 3y ago
The relevant section in the FAQs is the following. Can I use web fonts for my client websites? The Terms of Use do not permit reselling beyond December 31, 2019. After that time, the client's website must load Adobe Fonts from their own Creative Cloud subscription to ensure that there isn't any interruption to the font licensing or web font hosting. In the terms of services it is the following. 3.3 Use of the Licensed Content by Publishers on Whose Behalf You Create Websites. Publishers on whose behalf you create Websites must purchase their own subscription to the Service to continue using and displaying the Licensed Content on their own behalf upon completion of the Website(s) . You may not host the Web Fonts or Web Projects for the Publisher or resell the Service to them. 3.4 Obligations, Limitations, Restrictions, and Prohibited Uses of the Licensed Content. [...] (E) Prohibited Uses of the Licensed Content. Except as may be permitted pursuant to any open source license terms applicable to certain open source components that may be included in or distributed with the Licensed Content, you are expressly prohibited from: (1) hosting the Licensed Content on your own server or other self-hosting option or service; [...] (11) hosting Web Fonts or Web Projects for your own customers or clients, or reselling the Service to them; and The result is the same, the client requires a Creative Cloud subscription. Not sure why they would think what they are doing is allowed, this is neither hard to find nor hard to understand.

The answer seems pretty straightforward. The web design firm has a license *for their own commercial use*, they do not have a license they can extend their *cli

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Mystery-Machine 3y ago

No, it is not. It is clearly not. "needs to have the fknt installed to edit your design" is referring to use the font on a computer, through some app. There's no mention of a client using the font on their website.

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danbruc 3y ago

The relevant section in the FAQs is the following. Can I use web fonts for my client websites? The Terms of Use do not permit reselling beyond December 31, 2019. After that time, the client's website must load Adobe Fonts from their own Creative Cloud subscription to ensure that there isn't any interruption to the font licensing or web font hosting. In the terms of services it is the following. 3.3 Use of the Licensed Content by Publishers on Whose Behalf You Create Websites. Publishers on whose behalf you create Websites must purchase their own subscription to the Service to continue using and displaying the Licensed Content on their own behalf upon completion of the Website(s) . You may not host the Web Fonts or Web Projects for the Publisher or resell the Service to them. 3.4 Obligations, Limitations, Restrictions, and Prohibited Uses of the Licensed Content. [...] (E) Prohibited Uses of the Licensed Content. Except as may be permitted pursuant to any open source license terms applicable to certain open source components that may be included in or distributed with the Licensed Content, you are expressly prohibited from: (1) hosting the Licensed Content on your own server or other self-hosting option or service; [...] (11) hosting Web Fonts or Web Projects for your own customers or clients, or reselling the Service to them; and The result is the same, the client requires a Creative Cloud subscription. Not sure why they would think what they are doing is allowed, this is neither hard to find nor hard to understand.