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I didn't seek them out. For me, it could be said they never existed. Ads recommendeded them. I am not dumb to blindly purchase any recommendation.

matheusmoreira 3y ago
Well, I search for products I want constantly. I'll describe what I want to Google or an actual salesperson and see what comes up. Then I'll refine the results if necessary. I don't consider that advertising. I'm looking for information and others are supplying me with it.
- passion__desire 3y ago
  Well then you are dependent on the particulars of the search engine algorithms and what it surfaces to you. This is similar to Walmart preselecting 3 products from a category and asking you to make a choice among them. I would love to have some diversity in it.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    Diversity is provided by friends and family. Trusted human beings. Not the highest bidder in the auctions for our attention. Also, without advertising, search engines and the web would be a lot more trustworthy than they are today. When searching I used to get many real websites created by humans, now I see ad-funded AI-generated utterly worthless SEO spam. Advertising is literally the root cause of the enshittification of the web.
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      Limited number of family and friends and their limited exposure to the products they have personally experienced is too limited for me. I would like to atleast check out what is out there. Then do research and then buy. Don't project your personal way of doing things onto others.
Rygian 3y ago
So you ended up spending money that you were not planning to spend in the first place, because the advertisers succeeded in provoking in you a sense of necessity where none existed before. I would rather keep advertisements specifically restricted only to those who already have a need, and are interested in choosing a commercial solution for that need.
- passion__desire 3y ago
  I earn money to make my life better, not to just increase a number in my bank account. I hope you understand the concept of surplus income. Otherwise we can go back to stone-age "just existing", "being in the moment and intimate with raw sensations" as nature intended to be. To take your point further, why not abolish, ban luxury market segment. A $10 shirt does the same job of $500 one. Well Apple created a necessity in making you to buy a $1000 dollar phone, it does the same job as $400 one. I would allow market place to decide what new ideas should take hold in society. Taking an uber or online dating was frowned upon, not anymore. People can change, society can adapt, better processes can be put in place to avoid hurt sentiments of all parties involved.
  - Rygian 3y ago
    I do not advocate to abolish or ban any market segment, but rather to limit their ability to advertise only to individuals who are already on the market for the kind of product or service being advertised. Also, congratulations on your surplus income. Many people do not enjoy that luxury.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

Well, I search for products I want constantly. I'll describe what I want to Google or an actual salesperson and see what comes up. Then I'll refine the results if necessary. I don't consider that advertising. I'm looking for information and others are supplying me with it.

passion__desire 3y ago
Well then you are dependent on the particulars of the search engine algorithms and what it surfaces to you. This is similar to Walmart preselecting 3 products from a category and asking you to make a choice among them. I would love to have some diversity in it.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  Diversity is provided by friends and family. Trusted human beings. Not the highest bidder in the auctions for our attention. Also, without advertising, search engines and the web would be a lot more trustworthy than they are today. When searching I used to get many real websites created by humans, now I see ad-funded AI-generated utterly worthless SEO spam. Advertising is literally the root cause of the enshittification of the web.
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    Limited number of family and friends and their limited exposure to the products they have personally experienced is too limited for me. I would like to atleast check out what is out there. Then do research and then buy. Don't project your personal way of doing things onto others.

Rygian 3y ago

So you ended up spending money that you were not planning to spend in the first place, because the advertisers succeeded in provoking in you a sense of necessity where none existed before. I would rather keep advertisements specifically restricted only to those who already have a need, and are interested in choosing a commercial solution for that need.

passion__desire 3y ago
I earn money to make my life better, not to just increase a number in my bank account. I hope you understand the concept of surplus income. Otherwise we can go back to stone-age "just existing", "being in the moment and intimate with raw sensations" as nature intended to be. To take your point further, why not abolish, ban luxury market segment. A $10 shirt does the same job of $500 one. Well Apple created a necessity in making you to buy a $1000 dollar phone, it does the same job as $400 one. I would allow market place to decide what new ideas should take hold in society. Taking an uber or online dating was frowned upon, not anymore. People can change, society can adapt, better processes can be put in place to avoid hurt sentiments of all parties involved.
- Rygian 3y ago
  I do not advocate to abolish or ban any market segment, but rather to limit their ability to advertise only to individuals who are already on the market for the kind of product or service being advertised. Also, congratulations on your surplus income. Many people do not enjoy that luxury.