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As much as I'd love to run GrapheneOS—and in the context of the original post—I just can't bring myself to willingly give the Google ad-machine my money. I keep

As much as I'd love to run GrapheneOS—and in the context of the original post—I just can't bring myself to willingly give the Google ad-machine my money. I keep hoping another manufacturer will step up and drive support for their devices.

jqpabc123 3y ago
I keep hoping another manufacturer will step up and drive support for their devices. I wouldn't hold my breath. Mainline hardware manufacturers have little incentive to support this. e/OS is a well rounded, compromise alternative with much broader hardware support. I use it with an inexpensive Moto 5G Ace. https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-motorola-one-5g-ace/p?skuId=537 https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-motorola-one-5g-ace/...
- kenmacd 3y ago
  Thanks, I should take a look. I've also been meaning to try DivestOS. I'm certainly not holding my breath on more GrapheneOS support, as so few people care. I'm not entirely sure it'd be the right fit for me anyway. I'm currently using a microg setup with lsposed so I can patch out some junk in modern apps (like Outlook trying to be device admin), and this kind of hooking is not something GrapheneOS is interested in (a feature request I opened a while back: https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/284 https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/284).
- _rdvw 3y ago
  /e/OS is not well rounded. It is currently shipping Chromium Browser/System WebView from December of 2022 with 265 known security issues: https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt Users cannot change the system webview, Android only allows pre-included ones as it gets directly loaded into the process space of all apps using the WebView widget. And it still makes many connections to Google and includes proprietary Google binaries and downloads more at runtime: https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt Disclosure: DivestOS is my project.

jqpabc123 3y ago

I keep hoping another manufacturer will step up and drive support for their devices. I wouldn't hold my breath. Mainline hardware manufacturers have little incentive to support this. e/OS is a well rounded, compromise alternative with much broader hardware support. I use it with an inexpensive Moto 5G Ace. https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-motorola-one-5g-ace/p?skuId=537 https://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones-motorola-one-5g-ace/...

kenmacd 3y ago
Thanks, I should take a look. I've also been meaning to try DivestOS. I'm certainly not holding my breath on more GrapheneOS support, as so few people care. I'm not entirely sure it'd be the right fit for me anyway. I'm currently using a microg setup with lsposed so I can patch out some junk in modern apps (like Outlook trying to be device admin), and this kind of hooking is not something GrapheneOS is interested in (a feature request I opened a while back: https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/284 https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/284).
_rdvw 3y ago
/e/OS is not well rounded. It is currently shipping Chromium Browser/System WebView from December of 2022 with 265 known security issues: https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt Users cannot change the system webview, Android only allows pre-included ones as it gets directly loaded into the process space of all apps using the WebView widget. And it still makes many connections to Google and includes proprietary Google binaries and downloads more at runtime: https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt Disclosure: DivestOS is my project.