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Even in countries like India programmers make salaries in the multiples of the average (checking around on Payscale I see the average is around ₹60k, while prog

Even in countries like India programmers make salaries in the multiples of the average (checking around on Payscale I see the average is around ₹60k, while programmers make on average ₹460k). Sometimes programmers can have it rough, but that’s entirely their decision to stay. As a programmer you have unparalleled movement; the post-lockdown WFH standard and ability to code from basically any device show that readily. Combine that flexibility with high pay and long term career prospects and it shows that anyone begging for a union doesn’t understand what real working class struggles are.

LtWorf 3y ago
Our employees are saving a lot of money from WFH, and they are not giving that to salaries. You're saying that only the least paid profession should have a union and no other profession should have one? I don't think that makes sense. More than one union can exist at once.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  Your reading comprehension is lacking. I’m saying programmers get paid well and have large opportunities, and that unions don’t serve a purpose. Care to enlighten me how programmers are some abused work force and need unions?
  - LtWorf 3y ago
    My reading comprehension is fine. You wrote an incorrect statement and I corrected you. > Care to enlighten me how programmers are some abused work force and need unions? Everybody who works for someone else does, not just programmers. And the expectation of working nights, do open source work to even be considered are all abuses that are happening.
    - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
      I did not make an incorrect statement. I pointed out reality. Whether you accept reality or not is the question. > Everybody who works for someone else does, not just programmers. Speaking of incorrect statements. > And the expectation of working nights, do open source work to even be considered are all abuses that are happening. Those are not abuses. Working nights is part of the job, just like doctors and engineers. Don’t like it? Find a job at somewhere that doesn’t work nights. And contributing to open source is proof of your capabilities as a programmer in a real world environment. If you cannot do open source, you do not deserve to be hired. These are at most minor inconveniences, and not something a union would even help you with.
      - LtWorf 3y ago
        > Speaking of incorrect statements. Correctness and being liked by you aren't the same concept. Also "reality" as you called it, is just your own political opinion. A union would help with getting fairly compensated for working nights, instead of "see you at 8.30am tomorrow".

LtWorf 3y ago

Our employees are saving a lot of money from WFH, and they are not giving that to salaries. You're saying that only the least paid profession should have a union and no other profession should have one? I don't think that makes sense. More than one union can exist at once.

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
Your reading comprehension is lacking. I’m saying programmers get paid well and have large opportunities, and that unions don’t serve a purpose. Care to enlighten me how programmers are some abused work force and need unions?
- LtWorf 3y ago
  My reading comprehension is fine. You wrote an incorrect statement and I corrected you. > Care to enlighten me how programmers are some abused work force and need unions? Everybody who works for someone else does, not just programmers. And the expectation of working nights, do open source work to even be considered are all abuses that are happening.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    I did not make an incorrect statement. I pointed out reality. Whether you accept reality or not is the question. > Everybody who works for someone else does, not just programmers. Speaking of incorrect statements. > And the expectation of working nights, do open source work to even be considered are all abuses that are happening. Those are not abuses. Working nights is part of the job, just like doctors and engineers. Don’t like it? Find a job at somewhere that doesn’t work nights. And contributing to open source is proof of your capabilities as a programmer in a real world environment. If you cannot do open source, you do not deserve to be hired. These are at most minor inconveniences, and not something a union would even help you with.
    - LtWorf 3y ago
      > Speaking of incorrect statements. Correctness and being liked by you aren't the same concept. Also "reality" as you called it, is just your own political opinion. A union would help with getting fairly compensated for working nights, instead of "see you at 8.30am tomorrow".