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XBMC 11 is released

159 points by AndrewDucker 15y ago

AndrewDucker 15y ago
For those people that don't know - XBMC started off as a hack for the original XBox that made it into a media centre. It's since become a stand-alone media app, installable on everything from the Apple TV to Linux. It plays everything you throw at it, keeps track of where you were up to when you last hit pause, and happily interconnects with all sorts of sources.
- skeletonjelly 15y ago
  Speaking of pausing, one of my favourite features is how it works with the Android XBMC remote. If somebody calls my phone it will pause whatever is playing, show a notification on the TV and resume playing when I hang up. Always surprises me.
  - malkia 15y ago
    I guess, I don't fully understand this... Is the phone used for remote?
    - 0x0 15y ago
      I assume he's talking about a "remote" app for Android. There are a dozen for iOS at least. They all work via the HTTP interface that xbmc exposes, I believe.
      - Danieru 15y ago
        The android xbmc app is special because it is development by the xbmc team. xbmc has a few remote apis. The nicest is the JSON one, it's so easy to work with I wrote a simple remote for my n900.
    - spdy 15y ago
      Yes you can control XBMC over JSON-RPC there are many remotes for Android / IOS. I personally use my IPad as remote.
  - xpose2000 15y ago
    I did not know this. Thanks so much! I was going to actually buy a standalone IR remote for my HTPC.
    - skeletonjelly 15y ago
      The only thing I hate about it is that it lacks haptic feedback so you can't really look at the TV screen and know where the buttons are, you'll have a high failure rate basically.
    - vetinari 15y ago
      Piece of advice: get the standalone IR (or BT) remote. Not only you will have haptic feedback mentioned by skeletonjelly, but the battery will last months and, the most important thing, you can wake up the HTPC from sleep (yes, you can use WOL with the Android remote, but it takes too long). Another alternative is to get HDMI CEC-USB adapter and use remote from your telly for control. Pricewise, they are about the same as remotes.
      - ZeroGravitas 15y ago
        Another option is Flirc , cross between a uSB IR reciever and a programmable remote. You can teach it any existing IR remotes you have and it appears to the system like a USB keyboard. http://flirc.tv/ http://flirc.tv/ Note that despite the name, it has nothing to do with lirc.
- sdfjkl 15y ago
  I've been running this on a Mac Mini connected to my HDTV for some time now and it's become my favorite media player, mainly due to it's smooth integration with the Apple remote control and keeping track of what I've already watched. It really does play anything, including all kinds of subtitles and "just works".
  - bherms 15y ago
    Have you tried Plex? I've been a dedicated Plex user for a while now, but I've noticed quite a few bugs lately and development seems to have slowed on the desktop client as of late (though I recent blog post says they'll be getting back to it soon). I just want to know if I should consider switching to XBMC.
    - zerostar07 15y ago
      Plex requires snow leopard which you won't find on old mac minis.
      - bherms 15y ago
        I've got the base model of the newest line of Mac Minis running Plex. It surprisingly pretty choppy and slow at times.
    - e40 15y ago
      I'm on Plex .8 because Plex .9 didn't allow delete. There was a shitstorm in the forums about this, and it's been implemented, so I never upgraded. The other thing I hated about Plex .9 was the UI. I really liked the "browse by filesystem." I'm considering giving XBMC a try again (I started with that and went to Plex when they had much better Mac support).
      - bherms 15y ago
        Nice... I'm considering switching over to XBMC for a week or two to see how I like it. I might write a blog post to compare the two soon. Moving this week though, so it might be a while.
w1ntermute 15y ago
I'll give this a shot, but I'm not optimistic. I have an Nvidia Ion graphics card in my HTPC, and h.264 acceleration doesn't work with anything other than MPC-HC (I tried XBMC 10). It's really too bad, because the Ion chipsets are wonderful for HTPCs, and XBMC has a great UI. A combination of the two has the potential to be a great HTPC that actually plays everything (instead of the half-assedness of Apple TV or Roku).
- skeletonjelly 15y ago
  Optimistic? You're in for a surprise. It works perfectly on my Asrock ION 330 with the Ion graphics card. Can play 1080p flawlessly without hardly affecting the CPU thanks for the VDPAU acceleration http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_an_ION_based_machine http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_...
  - tominated 15y ago
    The only problem with it is that it doesn't do interlacing without stuttering quite badly. I haven't tried it with 11 though.
    - skeletonjelly 15y ago
      Weird. I've never had problems with TV media in any version (10 or 11)
- baddox 15y ago
  My HTPC had an Ion, and I had flawless hardware decoding of 1080p H.264 in XBMC on Linux about 2 years ago. Unfortunately, I can't give you an easy step-by-step guide, because I spent like a week tweaking the system, but it was basically a then-recent build of XBMC with hardware acceleration provided by VDPAU. It was an amazing setup. (Everything is in the past tense because I've since moved to San Francisco and don't have room for a TV.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119016 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
skeletonjelly 15y ago
Eden is a great version. I used to have version 10 crash on me all the time - which was horrible (in a first world problems way) that I had to find a laptop, shell in and restart XBMC, or make it non-windowed, or just reboot the machine. Congratulations to the team!
oomkiller 15y ago
I picked up an Apple TV for Airplay use with my iPad, but was disappointed that I couldn't play my movies on my media server. Luckily I found out XBMC runs on it, and it works quite well. I've been using the Eden beta on my ATV for a month or two now, good to see it's been released. $100 Apple TV + Jailbreak + XMBC == Awesome.
- jiggy2011 15y ago
  If you jailbreak an apple TV can you still use netflix?
  - oomkiller 15y ago
    Yeah, it works fine. Jailbreaking doesn't really change the interface at all, when you install XBMC it just adds another menu item.
- forrestthewoods 15y ago
  The $100 AppleTV + XBMC really is one of the best HTPCs you can have. For playing digital media it's not only one of the best options but one of the cheapest. Can't wait for AppleTV3 to get a jailbreak.
  - mitjak 15y ago
    But it won't play 1080p, correct?
    - mhurron 15y ago
      2nd generation AppleTV will play 1080p content, but only output 720. The new AppleTV will output full HD.
      - mitjak 15y ago
        I didn't even notice there's a new AppleTV. Superb news!
pixelcort 15y ago
A feature I've been looking for in a media player is the ability to run a custom script against a file from the media player's file browser. I have a script that I use to mark a file as watched, which I currently run as an Automator Action from the OS X Finder after watching the video. Has anyone come across a way of doing file-level 'actions' within a full screen media player?
- there 15y ago
  Why do you need a script to mark a file as watched? On Plex and XMBC you can easily toggle a file's watched/unwatched status from the navigation interface.
  - pixelcort 15y ago
    I store this watched status on a server that other people created. It is used to collect statistics of how many people watched a particular file. It also allows me to see what files I've already watched as I use multiple devices.
    - mbitca 15y ago
      There is a mymediadb plugin for xbmc that does this. Can probably borrow code from there if you have your own backend thingy. https://github.com/netbrain/mmdb-xbmc-addon https://github.com/netbrain/mmdb-xbmc-addon
- pixdamix 15y ago
  You can run queries against XBMC sqlite database or use http://trakt.tv/ http://trakt.tv/ to keep all your XBMC in sync.
adambratt 15y ago
I've been following XBMC for ages. Glad to see you guys are still getting work done!
zanny 15y ago
So I haven't been keeping up to date on the media center software packages, is XBMC still beating MythTV?
- tekromancr 15y ago
  Oh yeah! Myth us more for DVR type stuff now.
- barmstrong 15y ago
  Is it beating Boxee?
  - blcArmadillo 15y ago
    I'd say so since they're no longer developing Boxee for computers :(
    - andybak 15y ago
      Luckily: https://github.com/bartsidee/boxee https://github.com/bartsidee/boxee
      - untog 15y ago
        Not the same now that Boxee isn't behind it, sadly. Most developers are focused on XBMC (and have been for a long time) so I think Boxee on computers may struggle to keep going as an open source project.
  - mike-cardwell 15y ago
    Personally, I moved from Boxee to XBMC when I noticed that Boxee was calling back to boxee.tv every time I watched a video, telling them what I was watching. Even if it was just a local video file. With no option to turn that off. And with them ignoring my emails asking for information when I contacted privacy@boxee.tv. https://grepular.com/Boxee_TV_Helps_Its_Self_To_Your_Viewing_Habits https://grepular.com/Boxee_TV_Helps_Its_Self_To_Your_Viewing...
barmstrong 15y ago
This is great. Has anyone managed to jail break the Apple TV 3 to get XBMC on there? Or would you need to downgrade the Apple TV firmware to the 2 version to be able to jailbreak?
- GreySyntax 15y ago
  Can't downgrade signature checks are in place and the internals changed, you'd need a jailbreak designed for the device.
RugerRedhawk 15y ago
I still remember the days of using T3CH builds on my original XBox, using IRC to find certain files, etc, etc...
- pbrook 15y ago
  I first used XBMC back when it was XBMP and I was looking around for better dashes than evoX on my xbox. Good times getting those t3ch builds and pushing them to the xbox, occasionally messing it up and needing to drop back to the bootloader to fix it :) It is incredible how this project has kept on pushing out great features and support for new platforms. I talk to people at work who have discovered this and now use it on their mac mini/htpc, and are completely disconnected from the whole Xbox aspect of it. This team has a great idea when they initially tried getting builds working and usable on windows and linux. I wouldn't have imagined at the time how far this project would come.
- untog 15y ago
  I bought an Xbox from Craigslist (after the 360 came out) for $20 and put XBMC on it. I think it's still the best value purchase I ever made.
Osiris 15y ago
I've been running XMBC on Linux on a dedicated for several years now. I built a custom box using a mini-ITX (9"x9") board, and dual 2TB drives using LVM for 4TB of storage. It's become a great entertainment box for the kids. I keep all their movies/TV shows on there and it's simple enough that even the wife can turn on a movie for them!
nemo1618 15y ago
Just wondering, how would XBMC fare on a Raspberry Pi? I've been thinking about setting up an ultra-cheap media center.
- rcfox 15y ago
  Very well, apparently. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571 http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571
captn3m0 15y ago
xbmc also has builds for the iOS. You'd need a jailbroken iDevice to get it to run, but you get the full XBMC experience (with apps, themes, weather etc) instead of just a remote to control your "other" instance. See http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_iPad/iPhone/iPod_touch http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_... for more details on how to install it on an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch
nl 15y ago
I've been running Plex (originally a fork of XBMC) because it has support remote clients (ie, displaying the UI remotely and playing video) I can start a video on my Samsung TV, stop it, then pick up from where I left it on my Android table (I believe there are iOS client apps too). That's a killer feature, and I don't think XMBC has it. I'd love to be wrong about that though...
xpose2000 15y ago
The only thing XBMC is missing is HD audio support. My hope is that 12 will have it. Then I can ditch PowerDVD

159 points by AndrewDucker 15y ago

For those people that don't know - XBMC started off as a hack for the original XBox that made it into a media centre. It's since become a stand-alone media app, installable on everything from the Apple TV to Linux. It plays everything you throw at it, keeps track of where you were up to when you last hit pause, and happily interconnects with all sorts of sources.

skeletonjelly 15y ago
Speaking of pausing, one of my favourite features is how it works with the Android XBMC remote. If somebody calls my phone it will pause whatever is playing, show a notification on the TV and resume playing when I hang up. Always surprises me.
- malkia 15y ago
  I guess, I don't fully understand this... Is the phone used for remote?
  - 0x0 15y ago
    I assume he's talking about a "remote" app for Android. There are a dozen for iOS at least. They all work via the HTTP interface that xbmc exposes, I believe.
    - Danieru 15y ago
      The android xbmc app is special because it is development by the xbmc team. xbmc has a few remote apis. The nicest is the JSON one, it's so easy to work with I wrote a simple remote for my n900.
  - spdy 15y ago
    Yes you can control XBMC over JSON-RPC there are many remotes for Android / IOS. I personally use my IPad as remote.
- xpose2000 15y ago
  I did not know this. Thanks so much! I was going to actually buy a standalone IR remote for my HTPC.
  - skeletonjelly 15y ago
    The only thing I hate about it is that it lacks haptic feedback so you can't really look at the TV screen and know where the buttons are, you'll have a high failure rate basically.
  - vetinari 15y ago
    Piece of advice: get the standalone IR (or BT) remote. Not only you will have haptic feedback mentioned by skeletonjelly, but the battery will last months and, the most important thing, you can wake up the HTPC from sleep (yes, you can use WOL with the Android remote, but it takes too long). Another alternative is to get HDMI CEC-USB adapter and use remote from your telly for control. Pricewise, they are about the same as remotes.
    - ZeroGravitas 15y ago
      Another option is Flirc , cross between a uSB IR reciever and a programmable remote. You can teach it any existing IR remotes you have and it appears to the system like a USB keyboard. http://flirc.tv/ http://flirc.tv/ Note that despite the name, it has nothing to do with lirc.
sdfjkl 15y ago
I've been running this on a Mac Mini connected to my HDTV for some time now and it's become my favorite media player, mainly due to it's smooth integration with the Apple remote control and keeping track of what I've already watched. It really does play anything, including all kinds of subtitles and "just works".
- bherms 15y ago
  Have you tried Plex? I've been a dedicated Plex user for a while now, but I've noticed quite a few bugs lately and development seems to have slowed on the desktop client as of late (though I recent blog post says they'll be getting back to it soon). I just want to know if I should consider switching to XBMC.
  - zerostar07 15y ago
    Plex requires snow leopard which you won't find on old mac minis.
    - bherms 15y ago
      I've got the base model of the newest line of Mac Minis running Plex. It surprisingly pretty choppy and slow at times.
  - e40 15y ago
    I'm on Plex .8 because Plex .9 didn't allow delete. There was a shitstorm in the forums about this, and it's been implemented, so I never upgraded. The other thing I hated about Plex .9 was the UI. I really liked the "browse by filesystem." I'm considering giving XBMC a try again (I started with that and went to Plex when they had much better Mac support).
    - bherms 15y ago
      Nice... I'm considering switching over to XBMC for a week or two to see how I like it. I might write a blog post to compare the two soon. Moving this week though, so it might be a while.

w1ntermute 15y ago

I'll give this a shot, but I'm not optimistic. I have an Nvidia Ion graphics card in my HTPC, and h.264 acceleration doesn't work with anything other than MPC-HC (I tried XBMC 10). It's really too bad, because the Ion chipsets are wonderful for HTPCs, and XBMC has a great UI. A combination of the two has the potential to be a great HTPC that actually plays everything (instead of the half-assedness of Apple TV or Roku).

skeletonjelly 15y ago
Optimistic? You're in for a surprise. It works perfectly on my Asrock ION 330 with the Ion graphics card. Can play 1080p flawlessly without hardly affecting the CPU thanks for the VDPAU acceleration http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_an_ION_based_machine http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_...
- tominated 15y ago
  The only problem with it is that it doesn't do interlacing without stuttering quite badly. I haven't tried it with 11 though.
  - skeletonjelly 15y ago
    Weird. I've never had problems with TV media in any version (10 or 11)
baddox 15y ago
My HTPC had an Ion, and I had flawless hardware decoding of 1080p H.264 in XBMC on Linux about 2 years ago. Unfortunately, I can't give you an easy step-by-step guide, because I spent like a week tweaking the system, but it was basically a then-recent build of XBMC with hardware acceleration provided by VDPAU. It was an amazing setup. (Everything is in the past tense because I've since moved to San Francisco and don't have room for a TV.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119016 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU

skeletonjelly 15y ago

Eden is a great version. I used to have version 10 crash on me all the time - which was horrible (in a first world problems way) that I had to find a laptop, shell in and restart XBMC, or make it non-windowed, or just reboot the machine. Congratulations to the team!

oomkiller 15y ago

I picked up an Apple TV for Airplay use with my iPad, but was disappointed that I couldn't play my movies on my media server. Luckily I found out XBMC runs on it, and it works quite well. I've been using the Eden beta on my ATV for a month or two now, good to see it's been released. $100 Apple TV + Jailbreak + XMBC == Awesome.

jiggy2011 15y ago
If you jailbreak an apple TV can you still use netflix?
- oomkiller 15y ago
  Yeah, it works fine. Jailbreaking doesn't really change the interface at all, when you install XBMC it just adds another menu item.
forrestthewoods 15y ago
The $100 AppleTV + XBMC really is one of the best HTPCs you can have. For playing digital media it's not only one of the best options but one of the cheapest. Can't wait for AppleTV3 to get a jailbreak.
- mitjak 15y ago
  But it won't play 1080p, correct?
  - mhurron 15y ago
    2nd generation AppleTV will play 1080p content, but only output 720. The new AppleTV will output full HD.
    - mitjak 15y ago
      I didn't even notice there's a new AppleTV. Superb news!

pixelcort 15y ago

A feature I've been looking for in a media player is the ability to run a custom script against a file from the media player's file browser. I have a script that I use to mark a file as watched, which I currently run as an Automator Action from the OS X Finder after watching the video. Has anyone come across a way of doing file-level 'actions' within a full screen media player?

there 15y ago
Why do you need a script to mark a file as watched? On Plex and XMBC you can easily toggle a file's watched/unwatched status from the navigation interface.
- pixelcort 15y ago
  I store this watched status on a server that other people created. It is used to collect statistics of how many people watched a particular file. It also allows me to see what files I've already watched as I use multiple devices.
  - mbitca 15y ago
    There is a mymediadb plugin for xbmc that does this. Can probably borrow code from there if you have your own backend thingy. https://github.com/netbrain/mmdb-xbmc-addon https://github.com/netbrain/mmdb-xbmc-addon
pixdamix 15y ago
You can run queries against XBMC sqlite database or use http://trakt.tv/ http://trakt.tv/ to keep all your XBMC in sync.

adambratt 15y ago

I've been following XBMC for ages. Glad to see you guys are still getting work done!

zanny 15y ago

So I haven't been keeping up to date on the media center software packages, is XBMC still beating MythTV?

tekromancr 15y ago
Oh yeah! Myth us more for DVR type stuff now.
barmstrong 15y ago
Is it beating Boxee?
- blcArmadillo 15y ago
  I'd say so since they're no longer developing Boxee for computers :(
  - andybak 15y ago
    Luckily: https://github.com/bartsidee/boxee https://github.com/bartsidee/boxee
    - untog 15y ago
      Not the same now that Boxee isn't behind it, sadly. Most developers are focused on XBMC (and have been for a long time) so I think Boxee on computers may struggle to keep going as an open source project.
- mike-cardwell 15y ago
  Personally, I moved from Boxee to XBMC when I noticed that Boxee was calling back to boxee.tv every time I watched a video, telling them what I was watching. Even if it was just a local video file. With no option to turn that off. And with them ignoring my emails asking for information when I contacted privacy@boxee.tv. https://grepular.com/Boxee_TV_Helps_Its_Self_To_Your_Viewing_Habits https://grepular.com/Boxee_TV_Helps_Its_Self_To_Your_Viewing...

barmstrong 15y ago

This is great. Has anyone managed to jail break the Apple TV 3 to get XBMC on there? Or would you need to downgrade the Apple TV firmware to the 2 version to be able to jailbreak?

GreySyntax 15y ago
Can't downgrade signature checks are in place and the internals changed, you'd need a jailbreak designed for the device.

RugerRedhawk 15y ago

I still remember the days of using T3CH builds on my original XBox, using IRC to find certain files, etc, etc...

pbrook 15y ago
I first used XBMC back when it was XBMP and I was looking around for better dashes than evoX on my xbox. Good times getting those t3ch builds and pushing them to the xbox, occasionally messing it up and needing to drop back to the bootloader to fix it :) It is incredible how this project has kept on pushing out great features and support for new platforms. I talk to people at work who have discovered this and now use it on their mac mini/htpc, and are completely disconnected from the whole Xbox aspect of it. This team has a great idea when they initially tried getting builds working and usable on windows and linux. I wouldn't have imagined at the time how far this project would come.
untog 15y ago
I bought an Xbox from Craigslist (after the 360 came out) for $20 and put XBMC on it. I think it's still the best value purchase I ever made.

Osiris 15y ago

I've been running XMBC on Linux on a dedicated for several years now. I built a custom box using a mini-ITX (9"x9") board, and dual 2TB drives using LVM for 4TB of storage. It's become a great entertainment box for the kids. I keep all their movies/TV shows on there and it's simple enough that even the wife can turn on a movie for them!

nemo1618 15y ago

Just wondering, how would XBMC fare on a Raspberry Pi? I've been thinking about setting up an ultra-cheap media center.

rcfox 15y ago
Very well, apparently. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571 http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571

captn3m0 15y ago

xbmc also has builds for the iOS. You'd need a jailbroken iDevice to get it to run, but you get the full XBMC experience (with apps, themes, weather etc) instead of just a remote to control your "other" instance. See http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_iPad/iPhone/iPod_touch http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_... for more details on how to install it on an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch

nl 15y ago

I've been running Plex (originally a fork of XBMC) because it has support remote clients (ie, displaying the UI remotely and playing video) I can start a video on my Samsung TV, stop it, then pick up from where I left it on my Android table (I believe there are iOS client apps too). That's a killer feature, and I don't think XMBC has it. I'd love to be wrong about that though...

xpose2000 15y ago

The only thing XBMC is missing is HD audio support. My hope is that 12 will have it. Then I can ditch PowerDVD