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I have to suspect they thought whoever was gullible enough to pay $3-6 a month for an alarm app would surely not care about their data going along with it.

by late25 3y ago

plagiarist 3y ago
The entire demographic in the data is willing to pay $3-6 a month for an alarm app. I'd sell the data too, they're probably hitting printer ink levels of valuation for it.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  I never thought about how valuable the list of idiots willing to sub for basic functionality apps would be.
skinkestek 3y ago
Some of us think that if app developers who deliver good apps earn money from it, it will incentivize them to continue creating good apps. But sometimes I feel myself slipping closer and closer to your much more cynical ideas. In particular I remember donating what for me was a good chunk of money to Caddy right before they started "experimenting with business models" or whatever he called it. Same goes for happily paying WhatsApp, walking around like a living talking billboard for it only to have them sell out to Facebook shortly after. Just two examples from the top of my mind.
- pixl97 3y ago
  "Greed is good" --Says the monkey with his hand trapped in a jar. History has taught us that an enforced rule of law is the only way to prevent scammers from being the dominate players (by number, not size) in a market.
  - psd1 3y ago
    Negative. It ceases to be adaptive to be a cheater when cheaters exceed a certain percentage of the population. The advantage comes from information asymmetry. Law makes cheating less adaptive. But even without law, cheats would not exceed some small minority.
paint 3y ago
There is an alarm clock on iOS that used to be a 4 USD or something pay once that is now a monthly fee that I still use every day. It records your sleep sounds and wakes you up at a time when you're not in a deep sleep (you set a n minute wakeup window.) They added ChatGPT and all sorts of other shit to it unfortunately but the core functionality is still good
- throwaway290 3y ago
  I think now built in iOS sleep schedule with soft wake-up is nearly competitive with sleep cycle and similar apps.

I have to suspect they thought whoever was gullible enough to pay $3-6 a month for an alarm app would surely not care about their data going along with it.

by late25 3y ago

I have to suspect they thought whoever was gullible enough to pay $3-6 a month for an alarm app would surely not care about their data going along with it.

plagiarist 3y ago

The entire demographic in the data is willing to pay $3-6 a month for an alarm app. I'd sell the data too, they're probably hitting printer ink levels of valuation for it.

Workaccount2 3y ago
I never thought about how valuable the list of idiots willing to sub for basic functionality apps would be.

skinkestek 3y ago

Some of us think that if app developers who deliver good apps earn money from it, it will incentivize them to continue creating good apps. But sometimes I feel myself slipping closer and closer to your much more cynical ideas. In particular I remember donating what for me was a good chunk of money to Caddy right before they started "experimenting with business models" or whatever he called it. Same goes for happily paying WhatsApp, walking around like a living talking billboard for it only to have them sell out to Facebook shortly after. Just two examples from the top of my mind.

pixl97 3y ago
"Greed is good" --Says the monkey with his hand trapped in a jar. History has taught us that an enforced rule of law is the only way to prevent scammers from being the dominate players (by number, not size) in a market.
- psd1 3y ago
  Negative. It ceases to be adaptive to be a cheater when cheaters exceed a certain percentage of the population. The advantage comes from information asymmetry. Law makes cheating less adaptive. But even without law, cheats would not exceed some small minority.

paint 3y ago

There is an alarm clock on iOS that used to be a 4 USD or something pay once that is now a monthly fee that I still use every day. It records your sleep sounds and wakes you up at a time when you're not in a deep sleep (you set a n minute wakeup window.) They added ChatGPT and all sorts of other shit to it unfortunately but the core functionality is still good

throwaway290 3y ago
I think now built in iOS sleep schedule with soft wake-up is nearly competitive with sleep cycle and similar apps.