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As is the case today, movies can be released in stages, where early access is provided to businesses like these. Also, there may be technological innovations i

by tux1968 3y ago

As is the case today, movies can be released in stages, where early access is provided to businesses like these. Also, there may be technological innovations in AR/VR that don't make sense for every home owner to buy. And the cherry on top is the social occasion that can be cultivated, where everyone meets out of the home, for a shared event.

majewsky 3y ago
> where everyone meets out of the home, for a shared event Yet almost all of the shared experience is removed. Some of the most interesting experiences I had in a movie were when the entire audience reacts to something happening on screen. Can't have that if each group is desynced inside their metaphorical fishbowls.
- RugnirViking 3y ago
  > the entire audience reacts to something happening on screen I've always been surprised by this sort of anecdote. Is it a thing that happens a lot in america maybe? Here living across a few places in northern europe, people are just deathly quiet in the cinema. I think its seen as nobody wants to be inconsiderate to one another
  - bonoboTP 3y ago
    Yes, apparently in some places in America (I'm told not everywhere) it's acceptable to cheer or even clap during movies. In the places I know in Europe, this is seen as very rude and you're supposed to be fully quiet, or maybe whisper to your neighbor at most. It's also similar in public transportation. American tourists are often quite loud while locals speak more quietly in buses, trams etc.
    - RandomLensman 3y ago
      Depends where in Europe. People do laugh in cinemas and sometimes clap in the UK or Germany, for example (less than let's say in California, though).
      - eru 3y ago
        Germans also clap when their plane lands in Mallorca.
        newaccount74 3y ago
        Is that still a thing? I remember this was a thing when I was a kid in the 90ies, but I haven't experienced this in a long time.
      - rob74 3y ago
        I have been living in Germany for over 20 years now, and never once have I seen somebody clap at a movie. I mean, it makes more sense to clap after your airplane lands, at least that will make the pilots and flight attendants feel good, but who are you clapping for in a cinema? The projectionist (who's probably not even there anymore?). Having said that, there is a kind of "continuously showing movie" in Germany where the audience is very much encouraged to react during the film: there is a cinema in Munich that has been showing The Rocky Horror Picture Show continuously for over 40 years (not non-stop though), where people sing along, throw rice, dance etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Lichtspiele https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Lichtspiele https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/museum-lichtspiele-wie-muenchen-die-rocky-horror-picture-show-feiert-1.3545614 https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/museum-lichtspiele-wie-...
        RandomLensman 3y ago
        Maybe it is the type of movie or whether it was a dubbed or orginal version of the movie (changes audience mix)? Definitely been in cinemas in Germany with clapping.
    - cafard 3y ago
      I'm an American, and have never understood why others cheer or clap in movies. There are neighborhoods where loud comments on the movie in progress are not unexpected for discouraged. On the other hand, it was in an upscale movie where the guy behind me wanted to narrate Ed Harris's Jackson Pollock movie--sotto voce, but far from inaudibly.
  - ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
    In the UK, most serious films would have the audience quiet, but that's relaxed for comedies and horrors where the audience is expected to laugh at the funny bits and maybe gasp at the jump scares.
  - majewsky 3y ago
    I'm from Germany. Also, note my wording. I was not saying "this happens all the time", but "those were some of the most memorable moments".
  - vijayr02 3y ago
    Audience reaction to an Indian movie called RRR: https://youtu.be/ExxZBNp6jy4 https://youtu.be/ExxZBNp6jy4 This is at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in LA :) so as American as it gets
  - latexr 3y ago
    Context plays a part. When I go to a “regular” movie theatre, people are quiet. But they react a lot, laughing, cheering, and clapping, when I go to a theatre which is many decades old to watch a film as part of a festival.
  - OkayPhysicist 3y ago
    It's mostly quiet, but you'll definitely hear gasps at a jump scare, chortles as jokes, etc. Muffled, automatic responses.
- tux1968 3y ago
  > Can't have that if each group is desynced inside their metaphorical fishbowls. That's only a limitation of the technology as it exists today. It will be much more immersive in the future, and with AR, you can maintain contact with your party, as well as with whatever experience you're sharing. Hell, it might even be much greater interactivity than today. Say a dinner-theater like murder mystery, with a dead body lying in the corner virtually, and a common goal of finding the culprit.
eru 3y ago
Yes, that's possible. Though in that case I expect people to use them together in relatively small rooms and all starting at the same time, instead of big movie theatres.
jncfhnb 3y ago
Why would early access of films go to physical location businesses and not digital businesses?
- tux1968 3y ago
  For the same reason most movies are first released in theaters today. Another revenue stream for the studios. By the way, at least in America, most movies are digital businesses today. Movie theaters don't receive rolls of movie film that they load into projectors. They receive digital files, that are played on the big screen.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    The reason for that is regulation and contracts.
    - tux1968 3y ago
      What regulations? And what contracts? And even if there are contracts, why were they signed in the first place? Presumably because they were in the best interests of both parties. And, why do you think the contracts would change, due to the media becoming digital? On top of which, you seemed to totally ignore the point I made, that movies are already digital. And yet, they are released to movie theaters first. I think you don't fully appreciate the situation as it exists today. Nor have you given any reason why you think it would change in the future.
      - jncfhnb 3y ago
        I think you’re being kind of dim if you think that the digital nature of film has any relevance to physical distribution vs. digital streaming distribution tbh. There is an obvious reason why studios have a vested interest in releasing directly to consumers and that is to cut out the theaters as a middleman. Which is the entire reason we have the Paramount decrees to stop vertical integration of film studios and film distributors. Which is now being evaded by streaming services. The contract I have in mind is Scarlett johansenn suing Disney for releasing Black Widow to streaming when her contract stated that would not happen. I don’t think you fully appreciate the context as you haven’t seemed to acknowledged some basic big moving pieces like Netflix doing films that have substantially smaller theater presences and much higher direct to streaming outcomes. Not to mention the trajectory of film from movies to long form streaming television.

majewsky 3y ago

> where everyone meets out of the home, for a shared event Yet almost all of the shared experience is removed. Some of the most interesting experiences I had in a movie were when the entire audience reacts to something happening on screen. Can't have that if each group is desynced inside their metaphorical fishbowls.

RugnirViking 3y ago
> the entire audience reacts to something happening on screen I've always been surprised by this sort of anecdote. Is it a thing that happens a lot in america maybe? Here living across a few places in northern europe, people are just deathly quiet in the cinema. I think its seen as nobody wants to be inconsiderate to one another
- bonoboTP 3y ago
  Yes, apparently in some places in America (I'm told not everywhere) it's acceptable to cheer or even clap during movies. In the places I know in Europe, this is seen as very rude and you're supposed to be fully quiet, or maybe whisper to your neighbor at most. It's also similar in public transportation. American tourists are often quite loud while locals speak more quietly in buses, trams etc.
  - RandomLensman 3y ago
    Depends where in Europe. People do laugh in cinemas and sometimes clap in the UK or Germany, for example (less than let's say in California, though).
    - eru 3y ago
      Germans also clap when their plane lands in Mallorca.
      - newaccount74 3y ago
        Is that still a thing? I remember this was a thing when I was a kid in the 90ies, but I haven't experienced this in a long time.
    - rob74 3y ago
      I have been living in Germany for over 20 years now, and never once have I seen somebody clap at a movie. I mean, it makes more sense to clap after your airplane lands, at least that will make the pilots and flight attendants feel good, but who are you clapping for in a cinema? The projectionist (who's probably not even there anymore?). Having said that, there is a kind of "continuously showing movie" in Germany where the audience is very much encouraged to react during the film: there is a cinema in Munich that has been showing The Rocky Horror Picture Show continuously for over 40 years (not non-stop though), where people sing along, throw rice, dance etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Lichtspiele https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Lichtspiele https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/museum-lichtspiele-wie-muenchen-die-rocky-horror-picture-show-feiert-1.3545614 https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/museum-lichtspiele-wie-...
      - RandomLensman 3y ago
        Maybe it is the type of movie or whether it was a dubbed or orginal version of the movie (changes audience mix)? Definitely been in cinemas in Germany with clapping.
  - cafard 3y ago
    I'm an American, and have never understood why others cheer or clap in movies. There are neighborhoods where loud comments on the movie in progress are not unexpected for discouraged. On the other hand, it was in an upscale movie where the guy behind me wanted to narrate Ed Harris's Jackson Pollock movie--sotto voce, but far from inaudibly.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
  In the UK, most serious films would have the audience quiet, but that's relaxed for comedies and horrors where the audience is expected to laugh at the funny bits and maybe gasp at the jump scares.
- majewsky 3y ago
  I'm from Germany. Also, note my wording. I was not saying "this happens all the time", but "those were some of the most memorable moments".
- vijayr02 3y ago
  Audience reaction to an Indian movie called RRR: https://youtu.be/ExxZBNp6jy4 https://youtu.be/ExxZBNp6jy4 This is at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in LA :) so as American as it gets
- latexr 3y ago
  Context plays a part. When I go to a “regular” movie theatre, people are quiet. But they react a lot, laughing, cheering, and clapping, when I go to a theatre which is many decades old to watch a film as part of a festival.
- OkayPhysicist 3y ago
  It's mostly quiet, but you'll definitely hear gasps at a jump scare, chortles as jokes, etc. Muffled, automatic responses.
tux1968 3y ago
> Can't have that if each group is desynced inside their metaphorical fishbowls. That's only a limitation of the technology as it exists today. It will be much more immersive in the future, and with AR, you can maintain contact with your party, as well as with whatever experience you're sharing. Hell, it might even be much greater interactivity than today. Say a dinner-theater like murder mystery, with a dead body lying in the corner virtually, and a common goal of finding the culprit.

eru 3y ago

Yes, that's possible. Though in that case I expect people to use them together in relatively small rooms and all starting at the same time, instead of big movie theatres.

jncfhnb 3y ago

Why would early access of films go to physical location businesses and not digital businesses?

tux1968 3y ago
For the same reason most movies are first released in theaters today. Another revenue stream for the studios. By the way, at least in America, most movies are digital businesses today. Movie theaters don't receive rolls of movie film that they load into projectors. They receive digital files, that are played on the big screen.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  The reason for that is regulation and contracts.
  - tux1968 3y ago
    What regulations? And what contracts? And even if there are contracts, why were they signed in the first place? Presumably because they were in the best interests of both parties. And, why do you think the contracts would change, due to the media becoming digital? On top of which, you seemed to totally ignore the point I made, that movies are already digital. And yet, they are released to movie theaters first. I think you don't fully appreciate the situation as it exists today. Nor have you given any reason why you think it would change in the future.
    - jncfhnb 3y ago
      I think you’re being kind of dim if you think that the digital nature of film has any relevance to physical distribution vs. digital streaming distribution tbh. There is an obvious reason why studios have a vested interest in releasing directly to consumers and that is to cut out the theaters as a middleman. Which is the entire reason we have the Paramount decrees to stop vertical integration of film studios and film distributors. Which is now being evaded by streaming services. The contract I have in mind is Scarlett johansenn suing Disney for releasing Black Widow to streaming when her contract stated that would not happen. I don’t think you fully appreciate the context as you haven’t seemed to acknowledged some basic big moving pieces like Netflix doing films that have substantially smaller theater presences and much higher direct to streaming outcomes. Not to mention the trajectory of film from movies to long form streaming television.