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It shouldn’t be declining it needs to stop completely. Now.

sadhorse 3y ago
The US couldn't even compensate the native people whose land they completely destroyed with nuclear testing in the pacific. But it wants LATAM to compensate them by giving up their sovereignty over their own land "because it affects everyone".
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Or the people that they displaced to build Diego Garcia. Oh wait that's not the US, that was the British. The base is only 'leased' they say. Guess you can outsource your atrocities now and stay clean of blame?
goatlover 3y ago
That's not how the world works. Most things aren't all or nothing. Usually there are tradeoffs and competing interests.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Enforced using economic sanctions and if required, military. We can't mess around with the climate crisis any more.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    Sanctions will drive Brazil even deeper into the arms of China. Are you willing to die for this jungle?
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      We’ll likely die without it so I guess so?
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        You won't die without it.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
It "needs" to do absolutely nothing. The amazon is ours and we can exploit it if we want. If it was up to me, I'd burn that entire jungle down if it brought even a tiny bit of prosperity to Brazil. Who are you to judge? Even our current left-wing president is pushing for oil prospecting in the region. I support him in that.
- empath75 3y ago
  probably a better thing to do would be to get the rest of the world to pay you to not do it.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    They'd have to pay a lot. And continuously. Earlier this year, the EU's approach was to try to introduce sanction terms into the international agreements. Even our current president took offense to that. I really don't find it surprising that he's friends with China. They're the ones who buy up all our soy anyway. They'd probably enjoy it a lot if we destroyed the Amazon to make more soy for them to buy.
- hinkley 3y ago
  Maybe you're unaware of the situation in Haiti, but burning your entire jungle down brings nothing but flooding and despair. The other country on the same island has none of these problems. I'd do a lot of things if they were free. Nothing is.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    Which is why I said I would do it "if" it brought us prosperity. I didn't say I'd do it lightly. The point I tried to express was my willingness to sacrifice it. If I could push a button to replace the entire area of the Amazon with high tech industry, I would do it without thinking twice. Western countries have been telling us what to do with this jungle for many decades now. Even as a kid I used to hear of US presidents talking about how the Amazon "belongs to the world". I find that to be extremely offensive and disrespectful towards our sovereignty.

The US couldn't even compensate the native people whose land they completely destroyed with nuclear testing in the pacific. But it wants LATAM to compensate them by giving up their sovereignty over their own land "because it affects everyone".

wkat4242 3y ago
Or the people that they displaced to build Diego Garcia. Oh wait that's not the US, that was the British. The base is only 'leased' they say. Guess you can outsource your atrocities now and stay clean of blame?

goatlover 3y ago

That's not how the world works. Most things aren't all or nothing. Usually there are tradeoffs and competing interests.

ChatGTP 3y ago
Enforced using economic sanctions and if required, military. We can't mess around with the climate crisis any more.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  Sanctions will drive Brazil even deeper into the arms of China. Are you willing to die for this jungle?
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    We’ll likely die without it so I guess so?
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      You won't die without it.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

It "needs" to do absolutely nothing. The amazon is ours and we can exploit it if we want. If it was up to me, I'd burn that entire jungle down if it brought even a tiny bit of prosperity to Brazil. Who are you to judge? Even our current left-wing president is pushing for oil prospecting in the region. I support him in that.

empath75 3y ago
probably a better thing to do would be to get the rest of the world to pay you to not do it.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  They'd have to pay a lot. And continuously. Earlier this year, the EU's approach was to try to introduce sanction terms into the international agreements. Even our current president took offense to that. I really don't find it surprising that he's friends with China. They're the ones who buy up all our soy anyway. They'd probably enjoy it a lot if we destroyed the Amazon to make more soy for them to buy.
hinkley 3y ago
Maybe you're unaware of the situation in Haiti, but burning your entire jungle down brings nothing but flooding and despair. The other country on the same island has none of these problems. I'd do a lot of things if they were free. Nothing is.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  Which is why I said I would do it "if" it brought us prosperity. I didn't say I'd do it lightly. The point I tried to express was my willingness to sacrifice it. If I could push a button to replace the entire area of the Amazon with high tech industry, I would do it without thinking twice. Western countries have been telling us what to do with this jungle for many decades now. Even as a kid I used to hear of US presidents talking about how the Amazon "belongs to the world". I find that to be extremely offensive and disrespectful towards our sovereignty.