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California's "dealing with the problems" seems like a lot of shortsighted non-sustainable policy. Parts of CA are burning right now. At this point they've been

California's "dealing with the problems" seems like a lot of shortsighted non-sustainable policy. Parts of CA are burning right now. At this point they've been bragging about maybe not having to go back to rolling blackouts. Reliably providing even the most basic services like water and power is such an astonishingly low bar that only in the poorest developing nations should that even be in question yet here we are. Long term, I don't see Texas or California holding up very well to climate change.

haltist 3y ago
What states do you think will manage to deal with climate change if not California?
- autoexec 3y ago
  I know there have been models to predict which areas of the country are expected to be most/least impacted by climate change but I'm not qualified to judge them. I suspect that increasing heat and desertification will leave much of the southern and western US in very bad shape. Anywhere prone to flooding now will only have it worse. The coastal areas will also deal with flooding and storms in increasing frequency/severity. Maybe some of the northern flyover states would be best? Higher land around the great lakes for example? If I were looking to buy up some land today I'd even consider Canada, but only after the fires have died down. The only nice thing about wildfires burning 40 million acres of forest to the ground is that it'll be a while before there's enough fuel for it to happen again.
  - haltist 3y ago
    So it sounds like you don't think most of the US will adapt.
    - autoexec 3y ago
      I'd have more faith if I saw a lot more effort being expended. It seems like most places are still pretending nothing will change. People are still buying property that regularly floods even while insurance companies are refusing to cover them. States are selling off their clean drinking water to industries that will waste and pollute it. Important infrastructure is left outdated and crumbling. Environmental protections are being rolled back, fracking and drilling continue. At this rate, it's looking pretty rough.

haltist 3y ago

What states do you think will manage to deal with climate change if not California?

autoexec 3y ago
I know there have been models to predict which areas of the country are expected to be most/least impacted by climate change but I'm not qualified to judge them. I suspect that increasing heat and desertification will leave much of the southern and western US in very bad shape. Anywhere prone to flooding now will only have it worse. The coastal areas will also deal with flooding and storms in increasing frequency/severity. Maybe some of the northern flyover states would be best? Higher land around the great lakes for example? If I were looking to buy up some land today I'd even consider Canada, but only after the fires have died down. The only nice thing about wildfires burning 40 million acres of forest to the ground is that it'll be a while before there's enough fuel for it to happen again.
- haltist 3y ago
  So it sounds like you don't think most of the US will adapt.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    I'd have more faith if I saw a lot more effort being expended. It seems like most places are still pretending nothing will change. People are still buying property that regularly floods even while insurance companies are refusing to cover them. States are selling off their clean drinking water to industries that will waste and pollute it. Important infrastructure is left outdated and crumbling. Environmental protections are being rolled back, fracking and drilling continue. At this rate, it's looking pretty rough.