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Yet another evidence, the EU is not interested in having an industry and even less a sovereign economy, instead is just a giant market for US corps Tesla being

Yet another evidence, the EU is not interested in having an industry and even less a sovereign economy, instead is just a giant market for US corps Tesla being subsidized is no surprise, it's a US DoD program This is a wake up call for Europeans, these non elected leaders should be reminded who they are supposed to serve It's also quite funny, Musk was crying out loud when Arianne received EU funding for various missions, calling it anti-competitive practice and "unfair" https://worldcrunch.com/business-finance/exclusive-spacex-accuses-europe39s-ariane-of-unfair-competition https://worldcrunch.com/business-finance/exclusive-spacex-ac...

stephenitis 3y ago
Is Tesla the only company the EU is funding for chargers?
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
  You miss the point, why should Europeans fund a foreign proprietary tech to build a key infrastructure for the green transition? Haven't EU leaders learned from their Russian gas mistake? What's the goal? I don't understand why Americans expect Europe to become their 51st state, and I don't understand why EU leaders keep funding their dependence to foreign companies, I can only ask questions Take it the other way around, why should Huawei build US's 5G infrastructure?
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    > why should Europeans fund a foreign proprietary tech They aren't. They are funding CCS chargers with CCS Type 2 Combo plugs that can be used by all EVs. Here's a BMW charging on a Tesla V2 charger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ Tesla's new V4 chargers come with displays and card readers thanks to sensible EU (and UK) regulation: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/first-v4-tesla-supercharger-station-has-opened-uk https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/first-v4-tesla-sup... The V4 Tesla chargers still aren't that great compared to other charger manufacturers, but it's an improvement over Tesla's V2 and V3 chargers.
  - stephenitis 3y ago
    Didn't we Americans entrust Volkswagen to build out some of our charging network through Electrify America (owned by Volkswagen? I think this is a case of funding the companies of these charging stations that work and function well, Tesla being one of them. You can try to draw a connection to Americans wanting Europe to be a 51st state. (wut??) but I think thats a little bit of a stretch, Tesla's will have to compete with the chinese electric cars and european grown electric cars in the market. At least they built a plant in Germany rather than try to meet demand by importing cars which would've been madness. I'm certain europe will get economically defensive once their auto industries start to suffer more, its a huge economic bloc.

stephenitis 3y ago

Is Tesla the only company the EU is funding for chargers?

WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
You miss the point, why should Europeans fund a foreign proprietary tech to build a key infrastructure for the green transition? Haven't EU leaders learned from their Russian gas mistake? What's the goal? I don't understand why Americans expect Europe to become their 51st state, and I don't understand why EU leaders keep funding their dependence to foreign companies, I can only ask questions Take it the other way around, why should Huawei build US's 5G infrastructure?
- clouddrover 3y ago
  > why should Europeans fund a foreign proprietary tech They aren't. They are funding CCS chargers with CCS Type 2 Combo plugs that can be used by all EVs. Here's a BMW charging on a Tesla V2 charger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ Tesla's new V4 chargers come with displays and card readers thanks to sensible EU (and UK) regulation: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/first-v4-tesla-supercharger-station-has-opened-uk https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/first-v4-tesla-sup... The V4 Tesla chargers still aren't that great compared to other charger manufacturers, but it's an improvement over Tesla's V2 and V3 chargers.
- stephenitis 3y ago
  Didn't we Americans entrust Volkswagen to build out some of our charging network through Electrify America (owned by Volkswagen? I think this is a case of funding the companies of these charging stations that work and function well, Tesla being one of them. You can try to draw a connection to Americans wanting Europe to be a 51st state. (wut??) but I think thats a little bit of a stretch, Tesla's will have to compete with the chinese electric cars and european grown electric cars in the market. At least they built a plant in Germany rather than try to meet demand by importing cars which would've been madness. I'm certain europe will get economically defensive once their auto industries start to suffer more, its a huge economic bloc.