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Kudos to Tesla. I basically despise Musk, but have to give credit where credit is due. Tesla was the only company that early on saw how important a robust, reli

Kudos to Tesla. I basically despise Musk, but have to give credit where credit is due. Tesla was the only company that early on saw how important a robust, reliable charging network would be, and now other car companies are dealing with the fallout of depending on shitty 3rd party charging networks. For example, just go to any (non-Tesla) EV owners' forum. In most of them you'll hear people talking about how they love their cars, but how so often 3rd party chargers are busted, or give cryptic error messages, or charge at a fraction of their advertised power. Now that Tesla has rebranded their chargers as "North American Charging Standard" (which takes an amazing amount of chutzpah to begin with given how their chargers were proprietary for so long), they really will have a key advantage over other car makers.

panick21_ 3y ago
They could have done far more with charging by standardizing early and providing a bunch of open CAD and source files. It would have made them the unquestioned standard from the beginning. Their actual Supercharges could have still been Tesla only either way. But their destination and home charges would have had a much bigger market.
clouddrover 3y ago
> now other car companies are dealing with the fallout of depending on shitty 3rd party charging networks No. Ionity is a joint venture by a number of car companies and has deployed many 350 kW chargers throughout Europe: https://ionity.eu/en/ionity/who-we-are https://ionity.eu/en/ionity/who-we-are You seem to be looking at this from a warped North American perspective. You need to understand that Europe is years ahead of North America in charging infrastructure. Tesla's V3 chargers kind of suck compared to chargers from manufacturers like Alpitronic or Kempower. Here are 400 kW Alpitronic (on Fastned) and Kempower (on Shell) chargers. Faster speeds, longer cables, higher voltage than Tesla offers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZWN_-a2j4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZWN_-a2j4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2M5W6saAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2M5W6saAk Tesla's V4 chargers have the potential to be better than the V3 chargers, but so far they really suck for 800 volt cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ2KtzMeh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ2KtzMeh8

panick21_ 3y ago

They could have done far more with charging by standardizing early and providing a bunch of open CAD and source files. It would have made them the unquestioned standard from the beginning. Their actual Supercharges could have still been Tesla only either way. But their destination and home charges would have had a much bigger market.

clouddrover 3y ago

> now other car companies are dealing with the fallout of depending on shitty 3rd party charging networks No. Ionity is a joint venture by a number of car companies and has deployed many 350 kW chargers throughout Europe: https://ionity.eu/en/ionity/who-we-are https://ionity.eu/en/ionity/who-we-are You seem to be looking at this from a warped North American perspective. You need to understand that Europe is years ahead of North America in charging infrastructure. Tesla's V3 chargers kind of suck compared to chargers from manufacturers like Alpitronic or Kempower. Here are 400 kW Alpitronic (on Fastned) and Kempower (on Shell) chargers. Faster speeds, longer cables, higher voltage than Tesla offers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZWN_-a2j4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZWN_-a2j4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2M5W6saAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2M5W6saAk Tesla's V4 chargers have the potential to be better than the V3 chargers, but so far they really suck for 800 volt cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ2KtzMeh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ2KtzMeh8