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Apple Investors Already Hate the New iPhone 15
- __loam 3y agoI'm pretty excited that I can finally get rid of my lightning cables. Apparently that makes me sheeple though.
- Waterluvian 3y agoI have a little plug that does it for me which will make do until I can justify needing a new phone. Maybe five years? But I’m delighted we’re converging on USB C.
- __loam 3y agoI've had my current iPhone for about that long so it was about time to upgrade. Glad I waited.
- bitwize 3y agoMy wife gets confused with the metric crapton of USB-mini, USB-C, and Lightning cables we have bouncing around the house. The fact that her Mac takes USB-C while her iPhone and iPad take Lightning even flummoxes her sometimes. Consolidating on one cable type will be a boon to our household.
- INTPenis 3y agoSo I guess it's time to buy their shares now, because Apple ain't going nowhere. Of course people hate it when they have to change their cables, but at least now they can use the same cable for everything. So in time they'll love it more.
- cassianoleal 3y agoI suspect nearly everyone who gets an iPhone 15 will not have to change cables. The phone comes with one cable included, but furthermore nearly every electronic sold in the last few years uses USB-C. The vast majority of people should have USB-C cables lying around.
- nowooski 3y agoI don't imagine investors can be pleased that Apple has largely held iPhone prices constant since 2020 despite high inflation. Charts showing the inflation-adjusted price of iPhones declining: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price
- dgrin91 3y agoInvestors dont care about price, they care about margins. If the cost to build an iphone goes down over time (I don't know that it does, just something to check for) it doesn't matter that the price is the same.
- likecarter 3y agoMy sweet summer child. Price increases are margin increasing events.
- dylan604 3y agonot if the cost of the item is also increasing due to inflation
- eindiran 3y agoUsing the phrase "my sweet summer child" violates like half of the comment guidelines and is a boring canned phrase to-boot. If you want to insult someone, at least be creative about it.
- mcphage 3y ago"Sweet summer child" actually is a kinda interesting insult—it was actually coined by Game of Thrones, and yet has so thoroughly spread that most people don't realize that. I certainly was shocked when I learned that, because I have never even read or watched the series, and so the entire in-universe meaning of it was lost on me—and yet from usage, it was incredibly clear what it meant. And it's catchy, to boot. (There were some sporadic uses before Game of Thrones, but we're talking like 100 years before Game of Thrones, and the meaning was a bit different.)
- Waterluvian 3y agoI’m not really paying attention so I’m likely about to put my foot in my mouth: Aren’t phones kind of a mature product? What left is there other than just making the various numbers bigger? Of course investors and companies want to sell you a phone every year. And they need compelling reasons to convince you too. But sometimes there just aren’t? This is the part where I think corporations often screw themselves. They’re at the top of the mountain but they only know how to climb.
- Simulacra 3y agoYou're right but what is left is to make it Cheaper, Faster, and Stronger. That's what we need but Apple is not really fulfilling that.
- Waterluvian 3y agoThey’re making it cheaper by not raising the price given inflation. Stronger… titanium maybe does that? Faster? I wasn’t paying attention. I assume each generation chip is faster per watt.
- Zandikar 3y agomy dumb comment was dumb
- MichaelZuo 3y agoHuh? iPhones have clearly gotten cheaper year over year as inflation reduces the value of $999.
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- hackerbeat 3y ago+ thinner. Even though I prefer iPhones, most Samsung phones look much cooler these days.
- Clubber 3y ago>Shares of Apple dropped 7.2% in the week leading up to the unveiling of the company's latest handset. The shares have probably been dropping mainly due to rumors that China will be banning iPhone sales, which is a pretty big market for them. There usually isn't a single reason like the article is trying to attribute. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/08/china-iphone-ban-government-state-owned-firms-workers-apple-us https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/08/china-iphone-b... But China denies it. Sounds like market manipulation via media. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/13/tech/china-denies-iphone-ban-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=business_ribbon https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/13/tech/china-denies-iphone-ban-...
- dylan604 3y agoI thought the ban was on Chinese Gov't use not the entire country. With that, I just assumed it was in response to US gov't banning TikTok on gov't devices. Essentially titForTat++. Everyone here says China has gotten Apple to allow them to spy on iDevices anyways, so they will know what the phones are doing.
- bilal4hmed 3y agowhat better time to be a share holder. Google is facing an anti trust lawsuit that if it loses hands Apple a monopoly
- kelthan 3y agoAt which point Apple will be facing an anti-trust lawsuit.
- deprecative 3y agoOnly if Biden is re-elected.
- kridsdale3 3y agoIn what?
- Dudester230602 3y agoPerhaps most of the historical profit had been made on proprietary charging cables?
- mrcwinn 3y agoI genuinely don't understand what a table of Stock Price Change vs iPhone Release has to do with anything. Since expectations are priced in ahead of time, and those expectations might be reasonable or not, a product announcement date is really a meaningless point in time. After all, anyone would be very happy to own AAPL since 1/9/2007, the announcement of the first iPhone.
- EricE 3y agoApple is the most gamed stock out there. It always tanks before their events, and it always recovers after. You can bet against that cycle if you like and you might even "win" short term, but long term you aren't going to keep winning that bet.
- alphabettsy 3y agoInvestment news is full of these statistics with dubious relevance. Drawing any conclusions from this data is likely a fool’s errand.
- hackerbeat 3y agoShares have dropped because they’ve been releasing the exact same phone for 5+ years straight, adding only features nobody needs. Samsungs’ phones seem much cooler these days and Jony Ive probably agrees.
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- sharts 3y agoWho cares what investors think?
- rsynnott 3y agoInvestor behaviour around Apple events seems... weirdly predictable. Up before, down after. It's so predictable I'm surprised it doesn't get smoothed out more by people trading against it.
- mcphage 3y agoI think that, what investors want out of a new iPhone, and what I want out of a new iPhone, are very different. Investors want a phone that makes Apple lots of money, I want a phone that is good.