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Does Starlink offer a plan for multi-tenant buildings? I'm thinking condo with 30 units. It seems like it should be more efficient to run one high bandwidth con

Does Starlink offer a plan for multi-tenant buildings? I'm thinking condo with 30 units. It seems like it should be more efficient to run one high bandwidth connection than multiple regular customers. Could we share cost among all tenants and get a really good deal?

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
probably not. Any 30 unit building is probably in too urban an area for Starlink to be competitive with fiber.
- ultrarunner 3y ago
  Think ski resorts
- pnpnp 3y ago
  That’s not necessarily true! I can think of 3 nearby Rocky Mountain resort towns without great cellular or terrestrial internet.
  - HaZeust 3y ago
    In fact, I believe Ameristar (or another casino) in Blackhawk CO was thinking about using Starlink
  - ravi-delia 3y ago
    There's gotta be a point where the cost of running enough fiber drops below a sufficient amount of starlink capacity though. Hard to say where that number is though.
- moyix 3y ago
  You'd be surprised. In dense cities like NYC/Brooklyn fiber availability varies from block to block, I assume because adding new infra is so expensive. We recently moved about five blocks away and lost access to fiber :(
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  Check out Whittier, Alaska. A port town of 272 people, almost all of whom live in a single building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittier,_Alaska#/media/File:Whittier,_Alaska_(2006).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittier,_Alaska#/media/File:W... (Another oddity; the only way to drive into that down is through a 2.5 mile tunnel with a single lane shared by trains and cars. You drive on the train tracks.)
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    They already have far Internet. https://uui-alaska.com/whittier-internet-cable-modem-cable-tv-service-is-required/ https://uui-alaska.com/whittier-internet-cable-modem-cable-t...
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xoa 3y ago
>Does Starlink offer a plan for multi-tenant buildings? I'm thinking condo with 30 units. It seems like it should be more efficient to run one high bandwidth connection than multiple regular customers. Could we share cost among all tenants and get a really good deal? I'm not quite sure what you're envisioning here? Starlink offers a business class service with a more powerful terminal, higher QoS, etc. One just gets that and then have it serve as the uplink to a LAN which you can subdivide in all the normal ways however one wants, that's what I've done with Starlink for multiple clients now including one that then feeds to a dozen or so different units over a half mile or so. There isn't any need to SpaceX to be involved in what happens after their terminal, it's no different than a fiber connection WISP or ADSL or cable. Everyone can agree to divide up paying for service and kit as they wish. Same as if it was going to a business that has 2 employees or 20 or 200 or 2000, SpaceX only cares (and should only need to care) about the bottom line of the monthly bill getting paid and any acceptable use/data TOS respected. They don't need any visibility into the network beyond their terminal. And Starlink can be part of a failover or more complex load balanced WAN too.
- pavon 3y ago
  Starlink's ToS prohibit reselling of service, and dividing cost of service among several tenants could be considered to violate that. Most ISPs would require a specific agreement for those sort of things. [1] https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1020-91087-64 https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1020-91087-64, Sections 2.1 & 10
  - xoa 3y ago
    >and dividing cost of service among several tenants could be considered to violate that Show me the caselaw where multiple people splitting a bill would be "reselling", not your head canon make believe if you're going to make such an assertion. ISPs grab enough power already without us needing to invent new things they can do. Reselling as far as I understand means taking a good or service and then selling it again for a profit. I'd really like to see any examples of people at one address being sued for privately deciding to share a bill. Also FWIW I don't think it should be legal for ISPs to prohibit reselling anyway, but I don't dispute they probably can in theory. Splitting a bill though? >Most ISPs would require a specific agreement for those sort of things. I think this sounds like absolute bullshit.
Stevvo 3y ago
OneWeb might be more suitable for this. At least their biz model is based around doing things it, while Starlink is direct-to-consumer.

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago

probably not. Any 30 unit building is probably in too urban an area for Starlink to be competitive with fiber.

ultrarunner 3y ago
Think ski resorts
pnpnp 3y ago
That’s not necessarily true! I can think of 3 nearby Rocky Mountain resort towns without great cellular or terrestrial internet.
- HaZeust 3y ago
  In fact, I believe Ameristar (or another casino) in Blackhawk CO was thinking about using Starlink
- ravi-delia 3y ago
  There's gotta be a point where the cost of running enough fiber drops below a sufficient amount of starlink capacity though. Hard to say where that number is though.
moyix 3y ago
You'd be surprised. In dense cities like NYC/Brooklyn fiber availability varies from block to block, I assume because adding new infra is so expensive. We recently moved about five blocks away and lost access to fiber :(
mcpackieh 3y ago
Check out Whittier, Alaska. A port town of 272 people, almost all of whom live in a single building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittier,_Alaska#/media/File:Whittier,_Alaska_(2006).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittier,_Alaska#/media/File:W... (Another oddity; the only way to drive into that down is through a 2.5 mile tunnel with a single lane shared by trains and cars. You drive on the train tracks.)
- Symbiote 3y ago
  They already have far Internet. https://uui-alaska.com/whittier-internet-cable-modem-cable-tv-service-is-required/ https://uui-alaska.com/whittier-internet-cable-modem-cable-t...
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xoa 3y ago

>Does Starlink offer a plan for multi-tenant buildings? I'm thinking condo with 30 units. It seems like it should be more efficient to run one high bandwidth connection than multiple regular customers. Could we share cost among all tenants and get a really good deal? I'm not quite sure what you're envisioning here? Starlink offers a business class service with a more powerful terminal, higher QoS, etc. One just gets that and then have it serve as the uplink to a LAN which you can subdivide in all the normal ways however one wants, that's what I've done with Starlink for multiple clients now including one that then feeds to a dozen or so different units over a half mile or so. There isn't any need to SpaceX to be involved in what happens after their terminal, it's no different than a fiber connection WISP or ADSL or cable. Everyone can agree to divide up paying for service and kit as they wish. Same as if it was going to a business that has 2 employees or 20 or 200 or 2000, SpaceX only cares (and should only need to care) about the bottom line of the monthly bill getting paid and any acceptable use/data TOS respected. They don't need any visibility into the network beyond their terminal. And Starlink can be part of a failover or more complex load balanced WAN too.

pavon 3y ago
Starlink's ToS prohibit reselling of service, and dividing cost of service among several tenants could be considered to violate that. Most ISPs would require a specific agreement for those sort of things. [1] https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1020-91087-64 https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1020-91087-64, Sections 2.1 & 10
- xoa 3y ago
  >and dividing cost of service among several tenants could be considered to violate that Show me the caselaw where multiple people splitting a bill would be "reselling", not your head canon make believe if you're going to make such an assertion. ISPs grab enough power already without us needing to invent new things they can do. Reselling as far as I understand means taking a good or service and then selling it again for a profit. I'd really like to see any examples of people at one address being sued for privately deciding to share a bill. Also FWIW I don't think it should be legal for ISPs to prohibit reselling anyway, but I don't dispute they probably can in theory. Splitting a bill though? >Most ISPs would require a specific agreement for those sort of things. I think this sounds like absolute bullshit.

Stevvo 3y ago

OneWeb might be more suitable for this. At least their biz model is based around doing things it, while Starlink is direct-to-consumer.