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Maybe, I’d like to see some sources that the chip is actually the same as what they use in the pro iPads. It also could be heat related in the iPad Air, it has

Maybe, I’d like to see some sources that the chip is actually the same as what they use in the pro iPads. It also could be heat related in the iPad Air, it has a thinner and lighter chassis with less metal. Thunderbolt uses a fair bit of power at 40Gb/s! Let alone say, providing 15w of power to whatever device like an external SSD.

masklinn 3y ago
> Maybe, I’d like to see some sources that the chip is actually the same as what they use in the pro iPads. https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-12-9-5th-gen,ipad-air-5th-gen,ipad-10th-gen https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-12-9-... Scroll to the "chip" section, and straight from the horse's mouth they both use a 4+4 / 8 M1, I rather doubt Apple has a variant of that chip which removes ip blocks (AFAIK the only variant is the 4+4 / 7 chip still available on the super low end MBA). > It also could be heat related in the iPad Air That... does not in any way affect the point?
- buildbot 3y ago
  Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip? That’s not clear on the spec sheet, you’d need a teardown. > That... does not in any way affect the point? Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 128 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets.
  - masklinn 3y ago
    > Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip? Yes. Per Apple: > More Innovative Technologies Packed into M1 > An Apple-designed Thunderbolt controller with support for USB 4, transfer speeds up to 40Gbps, and compatibility with more peripherals than ever. > you’d need a teardown. You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller? > Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 128 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets. I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered.
    - buildbot 3y ago
      > You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller? Thanks for the info! > I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered. No, you are being an asshole and a bit of idiot. I said it might be heat related - so there is a reason beyond market segmentation that apple does not include thunderbolt in the iPad air. I don't know why I am bothering either, but here we are.

masklinn 3y ago

> Maybe, I’d like to see some sources that the chip is actually the same as what they use in the pro iPads. https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-12-9-5th-gen,ipad-air-5th-gen,ipad-10th-gen https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-12-9-... Scroll to the "chip" section, and straight from the horse's mouth they both use a 4+4 / 8 M1, I rather doubt Apple has a variant of that chip which removes ip blocks (AFAIK the only variant is the 4+4 / 7 chip still available on the super low end MBA). > It also could be heat related in the iPad Air That... does not in any way affect the point?

buildbot 3y ago
Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip? That’s not clear on the spec sheet, you’d need a teardown. > That... does not in any way affect the point? Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 128 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets.
- masklinn 3y ago
  > Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip? Yes. Per Apple: > More Innovative Technologies Packed into M1 > An Apple-designed Thunderbolt controller with support for USB 4, transfer speeds up to 40Gbps, and compatibility with more peripherals than ever. > you’d need a teardown. You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller? > Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 128 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets. I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered.
  - buildbot 3y ago
    > You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller? Thanks for the info! > I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered. No, you are being an asshole and a bit of idiot. I said it might be heat related - so there is a reason beyond market segmentation that apple does not include thunderbolt in the iPad air. I don't know why I am bothering either, but here we are.