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> you’ll be cursing out Apple for how slow it is. Is it though? Really? 480 Mb/s is quite fast for most applications, especially those involving a smartphone.
by quenix 3y ago
> you’ll be cursing out Apple for how slow it is.
Is it though? Really? 480 Mb/s is quite fast for most applications, especially those involving a smartphone.
Any user with files large enough that this transfer is ostensibly slow is a videographer of some sort and has likely bought the pro model or at least planned for this event.
What sort of file is a "random 1-off thing" that a casual user might need to transfer, unexpectedly, over the wire, which is so large that a speed of 0.48 gigabits/sec is extremely slow?
The non-pro model can transfer a 5GB file over the wire in around a minute. Again, what is the real-world use case or scenario where a non-pro, casual user would find some random 1-off file, that is so large that the 0.48 Gbps speed is lacking?
- beaugunderson 3y agoEvery so often I transfer all of Wikipedia to my phone (using one of the Kiwix extracts, which are ~100gb). It takes forever (~1 hour). Until VERY recently (last few months) the Finder did not even have a progress bar for iPhone file transfers. Personally I am very excited for this transfer to happen over USB3 in the future.
- quenix 3y agoWow, that’s an interesting (and unique) use case. Out of curiosity, what client app do you use to actually view the snapshot on the iPhone?
- beaugunderson 3y agoThe app itself is also called Kiwix: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kiwix/id997079563 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kiwix/id997079563 The latest full snapshot (including low res images) is here and clocks in around 102gb: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2023-08.zim https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/wikipedia_en... I live on an RV and end up working off of solar power far from cell service, so when I run out of power for Starlink there's no internet and Kiwix is super handy for relevant reading material.
- withinboredom 3y ago> What sort of file is a "random 1-off thing" that a casual user might need to transfer, unexpectedly, over the wire, which is so large that a speed of 0.48 gigabits/sec is extremely slow? In my single anecdata case, out of 15ish years of owning phones, it was a 4kx60fps video of a recital and about 30gb if I recall correctly. Also, you are doing a classic mix-up of mega-bits vs. mega-bytes. A 30 gb file transferring at 480 megabits per second takes around 5 minutes with no protocol overhead (about 20% speed reduction) and assuming the flash on the phone can keep up and isn't doing anything else on the wire (probably another 20-40% reduction in transfer speed).
- quenix 3y agoAnecdata taken. How did I mix up megabits and megabytes? I mentioned a 5 gb file transferring at the same speeds takes a minute or so. That tracks with your 30 gb:5 minute calculation.
- withinboredom 3y agoYou said Mb/s not mbps.
- quenix 3y agoOkay, since we’re being pedantic, I still think you’re wrong. Mb/s is equivalent to Mbps. It would have been different if I wrote MB/s (all caps) MB/s = megabytes per second Mb/s = Mbps = megabits per second. See also https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/Mbps https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/Mbps > Megabits per second (Mbps) are units of measurement for network bandwidth and throughput. They are used to show how fast a network or internet connection is. Each Mbps represents the capacity to transfer 1 million bits each second, or roughly one small photo per second. It may also be expressed as Mbit/s or Mb/s.
- withinboredom 3y agoAh yeah, that's fair. I just reread my reply and realized it came across as much shorter than I intended, sorry for that. I wasn't trying to be an antfucker.