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Well, yes and no, even people who are strongly anti-Russian-regime-oriented told me that they stopped reading Meduza because it's giving info which is extremely

Well, yes and no, even people who are strongly anti-Russian-regime-oriented told me that they stopped reading Meduza because it's giving info which is extremely one sided and not objective, like it's propaganda but opposite to a Russian-state one

jononomo 3y ago
The entire situation is extremely one sided -- I would be highly skeptical of any source that does not paint Russia and Putin in a terrible light.
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  In terms of guilt sure, but you still want to read unbiased journalism about events etc.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
    There is no free press in Russia: https://www.pbs.org/video/putin-vs-the-press-aiw7f0/ https://www.pbs.org/video/putin-vs-the-press-aiw7f0/
    - The_Colonel 3y ago
      Meduza is based in Riga, Latvia.
      - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
        My point was it's tough to get objective news from a Russian source.
  - jononomo 3y ago
    My point is that unbiased journalism regarding the Ukraine war is going to look extremely one-sided.
    - Dah00n 3y ago
      How so? Seems you are biased to one side and see everything not agreeing with this bias as one-sided.
    - xyzelement 3y ago
      How would you/we know what unbiased is?
- pphysch 3y ago
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  - nabakin 3y ago
    > while Russia is responsible for invading, Victoria Nuland was caught red-handed orchestrating the Ukrainian coup/government that precipitated it Fyi the leaked Nuland call (which I assume is what you're referring to), is of her discussing who they should support after the massive protests started and Yanukovych and his ministers left the country. She did not "orchestrate a coup". At most, it's the US trying to get Ukrainian parliament to pick the interim candidate they want which while is still manipulative, is far from "orchestrating a coup".
    - pphysch 3y ago
      Okay, she clearly orchestrated the political half of the coup. I'm not suggesting she was commanding the Maidan snipers!
      - nabakin 3y ago
        Giving her support of a particular candidate is not "orchestrating" any coup. By that logic, the Democratic party giving support to Biden means the Democratic party enacted a coup on the US. Following the law of a country is not a coup. In order for there to be a coup, there has to be an unlawful seizure of power and that never happened. The president and his ministers left. I assume because the unrest of the people was so massive, he expected there would be a revolution. That would have been a coup, but even giving her support to a particular candidate the revolutionaries put forward, is not her causing a coup. Giving the revolutionaries weapons would be causing a coup. Sparking the revolution would be causing a coup. Getting one part of the government to overthrow the controlling part would be a coup. She did none of those things though (as far as we know). Facing the reality of having no president and having no line of succession remaining, the Ukrainian parliament selected an interim president for an interim government until a new, full president could be elected and that is what happened.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  Most people are like this for many issues on either side. If your media outlet isn't pouring kool-aid over your personally held belief it's viewed as suspect. Meanwhile your mind quickly discounts obvious contradictions to your held belief. Popular contradictions today: It's a human right to dress and act like any sex one chooses. It's evil and horrible to dress and act like a different race. Global warming is the biggest threat to mankind. Coming into the office is more important. Flying around the globe is to talk down to others who are doing more about global warming earns praise.
- Dah00n 3y ago
  > I would be highly skeptical of any source that does not paint Russia and Putin in a terrible light. So basically you picked a side and trust only what news agree with your beliefs?
  - urinotherapist 3y ago
    What wrong with that? We have moral compasses built-in. When someone says that murdering of people is OK, because Russia will be great again, should we throw out our moral beliefs and carefully listen to both sides?
    - Dah00n 3y ago
      In a discussion about unbiased news, it is pretty clear what is wrong about it.
oytis 3y ago
They might not be as anti-regime as they like to think. Apart from Meduza, I also read mainstream UK, US, German and Ukrainian media, and Meduza doesn't seem to be more biased than either of those. Their predictions of regime's difficulties seem to be exaggerated (compared to what seems to be happening in reality), but so are predictions of Western media.

jononomo 3y ago

The entire situation is extremely one sided -- I would be highly skeptical of any source that does not paint Russia and Putin in a terrible light.

The_Colonel 3y ago
In terms of guilt sure, but you still want to read unbiased journalism about events etc.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  There is no free press in Russia: https://www.pbs.org/video/putin-vs-the-press-aiw7f0/ https://www.pbs.org/video/putin-vs-the-press-aiw7f0/
  - The_Colonel 3y ago
    Meduza is based in Riga, Latvia.
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
      My point was it's tough to get objective news from a Russian source.
- jononomo 3y ago
  My point is that unbiased journalism regarding the Ukraine war is going to look extremely one-sided.
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    How so? Seems you are biased to one side and see everything not agreeing with this bias as one-sided.
  - xyzelement 3y ago
    How would you/we know what unbiased is?
pphysch 3y ago
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- nabakin 3y ago
  > while Russia is responsible for invading, Victoria Nuland was caught red-handed orchestrating the Ukrainian coup/government that precipitated it Fyi the leaked Nuland call (which I assume is what you're referring to), is of her discussing who they should support after the massive protests started and Yanukovych and his ministers left the country. She did not "orchestrate a coup". At most, it's the US trying to get Ukrainian parliament to pick the interim candidate they want which while is still manipulative, is far from "orchestrating a coup".
  - pphysch 3y ago
    Okay, she clearly orchestrated the political half of the coup. I'm not suggesting she was commanding the Maidan snipers!
    - nabakin 3y ago
      Giving her support of a particular candidate is not "orchestrating" any coup. By that logic, the Democratic party giving support to Biden means the Democratic party enacted a coup on the US. Following the law of a country is not a coup. In order for there to be a coup, there has to be an unlawful seizure of power and that never happened. The president and his ministers left. I assume because the unrest of the people was so massive, he expected there would be a revolution. That would have been a coup, but even giving her support to a particular candidate the revolutionaries put forward, is not her causing a coup. Giving the revolutionaries weapons would be causing a coup. Sparking the revolution would be causing a coup. Getting one part of the government to overthrow the controlling part would be a coup. She did none of those things though (as far as we know). Facing the reality of having no president and having no line of succession remaining, the Ukrainian parliament selected an interim president for an interim government until a new, full president could be elected and that is what happened.
ipaddr 3y ago
Most people are like this for many issues on either side. If your media outlet isn't pouring kool-aid over your personally held belief it's viewed as suspect. Meanwhile your mind quickly discounts obvious contradictions to your held belief. Popular contradictions today: It's a human right to dress and act like any sex one chooses. It's evil and horrible to dress and act like a different race. Global warming is the biggest threat to mankind. Coming into the office is more important. Flying around the globe is to talk down to others who are doing more about global warming earns praise.
Dah00n 3y ago
> I would be highly skeptical of any source that does not paint Russia and Putin in a terrible light. So basically you picked a side and trust only what news agree with your beliefs?
- urinotherapist 3y ago
  What wrong with that? We have moral compasses built-in. When someone says that murdering of people is OK, because Russia will be great again, should we throw out our moral beliefs and carefully listen to both sides?
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    In a discussion about unbiased news, it is pretty clear what is wrong about it.

oytis 3y ago

They might not be as anti-regime as they like to think. Apart from Meduza, I also read mainstream UK, US, German and Ukrainian media, and Meduza doesn't seem to be more biased than either of those. Their predictions of regime's difficulties seem to be exaggerated (compared to what seems to be happening in reality), but so are predictions of Western media.