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120hz.

soulofmischief 3y ago
Interesting. From what I can see, the 14 Pro starts at $999, but the non-Pro 15 will start at $799. Are there any features the 14 Pro retains that the non-Pro 15 drops?
- masklinn 3y ago
  According to the official comparator (https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14-pro,iphone-15,iphone-15-pro https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14-pr...) - always on display (alongside the 120Hz and variable refresh rate) - telephoto lens - 3x optical zoom (versus 2x) - macro photo - night mode portraits - macro video - proraw / prores
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    Thanks! So beside the lens and zoom, it's mostly artificial differentiation?
    - nekoashide 3y ago
      This is a skip a generation iPhone for me, USB-C is cool and all but by the time I'm ready to upgrade they should have something much better out there.
      - norman784 3y ago
        I skipped a few generations and if things going like this (no new feature that I’m interested in), at this rate I will change it when Apple drops the support.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      if you think proraw/prores vs h.264 encoded videos is an artificial differentiation, then you clearly don't do video editing. that's fine, but don't write differences off just because you don't know/use them.
      - masklinn 3y ago
        I assume by artificial they mean software, as in the iphone 15 and 14 Pro use the same SoC so they should have the same coding capabilities. Although it's possible prores is handled by a separate controller chip on the Pros (AFAIK only the M-series have hardware prores).
        dylan604 3y ago
        that is a much different take that what i had on the use of artificial, and does put a different look to it entirely. an artificial limitation imposed by Apple vs and artificial difference from user's non-use of a feature.
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        Correct, I'm referring to artificial limitations on products used to differentiate between tiered price points. I don't like to use the other definition of artificial when describing features themselves for the reason you point out... even the smallest features might be very useful to certain people.
    - masklinn 3y ago
      I’d assume the display hardware is also different, seems dumb to waste panels able of 120Hz variable refresh rate. The always on display is probably from the ability to run it at very low refresh rates, so that’d also be linked. And the macro photo could be using the telephoto lens, I’ve no idea (photography does not even remotely interest me).
- petemir 3y ago
  The similarities between both devices are probably the reason Apple stopped officially selling the 14 Pro.
rsynnott 3y ago
Apple _definitely_ seems to have decided this is a 'pro' feature, annoyingly. I'd have bought the M2 MBA in a heartbeat if it had it, but as it is, I'm waiting for the M3, anyway. (Of course I may just give in and get a personal 14" MBP, in which case they win...)

120hz.

Interesting. From what I can see, the 14 Pro starts at $999, but the non-Pro 15 will start at $799. Are there any features the 14 Pro retains that the non-Pro 15 drops?

masklinn 3y ago
According to the official comparator (https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14-pro,iphone-15,iphone-15-pro https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14-pr...) - always on display (alongside the 120Hz and variable refresh rate) - telephoto lens - 3x optical zoom (versus 2x) - macro photo - night mode portraits - macro video - proraw / prores
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  Thanks! So beside the lens and zoom, it's mostly artificial differentiation?
  - nekoashide 3y ago
    This is a skip a generation iPhone for me, USB-C is cool and all but by the time I'm ready to upgrade they should have something much better out there.
    - norman784 3y ago
      I skipped a few generations and if things going like this (no new feature that I’m interested in), at this rate I will change it when Apple drops the support.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    if you think proraw/prores vs h.264 encoded videos is an artificial differentiation, then you clearly don't do video editing. that's fine, but don't write differences off just because you don't know/use them.
    - masklinn 3y ago
      I assume by artificial they mean software, as in the iphone 15 and 14 Pro use the same SoC so they should have the same coding capabilities. Although it's possible prores is handled by a separate controller chip on the Pros (AFAIK only the M-series have hardware prores).
      - dylan604 3y ago
        that is a much different take that what i had on the use of artificial, and does put a different look to it entirely. an artificial limitation imposed by Apple vs and artificial difference from user's non-use of a feature.
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        Correct, I'm referring to artificial limitations on products used to differentiate between tiered price points. I don't like to use the other definition of artificial when describing features themselves for the reason you point out... even the smallest features might be very useful to certain people.
  - masklinn 3y ago
    I’d assume the display hardware is also different, seems dumb to waste panels able of 120Hz variable refresh rate. The always on display is probably from the ability to run it at very low refresh rates, so that’d also be linked. And the macro photo could be using the telephoto lens, I’ve no idea (photography does not even remotely interest me).
petemir 3y ago
The similarities between both devices are probably the reason Apple stopped officially selling the 14 Pro.

rsynnott 3y ago

Apple _definitely_ seems to have decided this is a 'pro' feature, annoyingly. I'd have bought the M2 MBA in a heartbeat if it had it, but as it is, I'm waiting for the M3, anyway. (Of course I may just give in and get a personal 14" MBP, in which case they win...)