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In their own launch presentation, Apple was taunting how the USB-C port now enables "professional" film makers to shot 4K60FPS directly to external storage

by moelf 3y ago

stouset 3y ago
And those professionals would be buying which model, again?
- kawsper 3y ago
  The one that shoots in ProRes or uses RAW (the pro model, which has USB3 speeds).
- arghwhat 3y ago
  Nothing impressive about locking "meeting standards of the previous decade" behind an upsell. The pro upsell option would be TB3/TB4/USB4 which itself is old tech now - like on the iPad Pro.
  - paulmd 3y ago
    the problem is it's not just one feature, it's USB3 and ProRes and the PHYs for handling external displays, and a bunch of other stuff besides. in aggregate the cost adds up, it's a larger and more expensive SOC and a higher-end phone with more expensive hardware. If a large portion of the market will never use those features, why not exclude them and make the phone $200 cheaper? and thus, we arrive at the reason why "base" and "pro" model product tiering exists (not just for apple either). would it be nice if you got the 7800X3D for 7600 prices? sure, free stuff would always be nice. is there an argument that if you're spending $1000 you shouldn't be compromising on features? yes, that's why I buy NVIDIA products and not just "we have a bit more VRAM" or "we're 5% faster in raster perf/$".
    - arghwhat 3y ago
      I'm sorry, but USB3 and ProRes have nothing to to do with each other, and comparing a USB3 controller with a 7600 to 7800X3D upsell - which is about yields/binning and chiplet bonding - is ridiculous. The real and only reason for not having USB3 in the iPhone 15 and 15 plus is because them using last-gen SoCs in non-Pro phones in recent times. Not because of cost, or power, or performance - it just only had a USB2.0 port so they put in a USB2.0 controller.
nickthegreek 3y ago
In the Pro phones, which use USB3.
masklinn 3y ago
That's for shooting in ProRes, which only the Pro models do. Completely coincidentally they also support 10Gb USB.

In their own launch presentation, Apple was taunting how the USB-C port now enables "professional" film makers to shot 4K60FPS directly to external storage

by moelf 3y ago

In their own launch presentation, Apple was taunting how the USB-C port now enables "professional" film makers to shot 4K60FPS directly to external storage

stouset 3y ago

And those professionals would be buying which model, again?

kawsper 3y ago
The one that shoots in ProRes or uses RAW (the pro model, which has USB3 speeds).
arghwhat 3y ago
Nothing impressive about locking "meeting standards of the previous decade" behind an upsell. The pro upsell option would be TB3/TB4/USB4 which itself is old tech now - like on the iPad Pro.
- paulmd 3y ago
  the problem is it's not just one feature, it's USB3 and ProRes and the PHYs for handling external displays, and a bunch of other stuff besides. in aggregate the cost adds up, it's a larger and more expensive SOC and a higher-end phone with more expensive hardware. If a large portion of the market will never use those features, why not exclude them and make the phone $200 cheaper? and thus, we arrive at the reason why "base" and "pro" model product tiering exists (not just for apple either). would it be nice if you got the 7800X3D for 7600 prices? sure, free stuff would always be nice. is there an argument that if you're spending $1000 you shouldn't be compromising on features? yes, that's why I buy NVIDIA products and not just "we have a bit more VRAM" or "we're 5% faster in raster perf/$".
  - arghwhat 3y ago
    I'm sorry, but USB3 and ProRes have nothing to to do with each other, and comparing a USB3 controller with a 7600 to 7800X3D upsell - which is about yields/binning and chiplet bonding - is ridiculous. The real and only reason for not having USB3 in the iPhone 15 and 15 plus is because them using last-gen SoCs in non-Pro phones in recent times. Not because of cost, or power, or performance - it just only had a USB2.0 port so they put in a USB2.0 controller.

nickthegreek 3y ago

In the Pro phones, which use USB3.

masklinn 3y ago

That's for shooting in ProRes, which only the Pro models do. Completely coincidentally they also support 10Gb USB.