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CNN and Fox also publish proven lies or reframe things. Do we not believe anything they say as well?

by mc32 3y ago

hkpack 3y ago
Of course. Why you would read any source which was caught lying?
edgyquant 3y ago
I assume this is a joke? These are two news companies famous for people not believing anything they say.
- berdario 3y ago
  I believe they are famous for not being believed by the other side's partisans. I.e. US republicans most often won't believe CNN and US democrats most often won't believe Fox. The point here is, there are plenty of topics on which CNN and Fox coverage is very very similar: off the top of my head events in Israel and Taiwan And on those topics, plenty of people just "trust the consensus" (or what appears to be the consensus, in western media) https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/out-of-bounds-how-media-monopolies-keep-radical-ideas-off-the-agenda/ https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/out-of-bounds-how-media...
  - rhamzeh 3y ago
    Non-Americans should not, and usually do not believe either. It's funny when Republicans/Democrats treat either as reputable. They're politicking 101 made into 24/7 news media panic. They're both charlatans and peddlers of lies and cheap tricks; they engage in propaganda and employ journalists who seem to believe that they're anything other than foot soldiers to stir up the masses against XYZ. Everyone knows Fox News is trash, it's laughable when some continue to argue that CNN isn't. Where XYZ can be anything, depending on which way the wind is blowing, sometimes it's each other, sometimes it's internal to the US, sometimes it's external
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  - hot_gril 3y ago
    They're both plain ragebait. I wouldn't even take their world news seriously, mainly cause it's low quality. We have better options for mainstream news here, even though it's also under control.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  > I assume this is a joke? There's no need to be condescending.
blackmesaind 3y ago
Pointing the finger at another is often not a very compelling argument.
- mc32 3y ago
  what I'm saying is that there are very few sources that don't publish lies or have bents, so we have to do with what we have. Use many sources and triangulate. Some sources are more believable in some areas, less believable in other areas. Some contributors are more believable/truthful than others. It's not all on or off.
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hot_gril 3y ago
Yes, that's exactly how I treat them.

CNN and Fox also publish proven lies or reframe things. Do we not believe anything they say as well?

by mc32 3y ago

CNN and Fox also publish proven lies or reframe things. Do we not believe anything they say as well?

hkpack 3y ago

Of course. Why you would read any source which was caught lying?

edgyquant 3y ago

I assume this is a joke? These are two news companies famous for people not believing anything they say.

berdario 3y ago
I believe they are famous for not being believed by the other side's partisans. I.e. US republicans most often won't believe CNN and US democrats most often won't believe Fox. The point here is, there are plenty of topics on which CNN and Fox coverage is very very similar: off the top of my head events in Israel and Taiwan And on those topics, plenty of people just "trust the consensus" (or what appears to be the consensus, in western media) https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/out-of-bounds-how-media-monopolies-keep-radical-ideas-off-the-agenda/ https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/out-of-bounds-how-media...
- rhamzeh 3y ago
  Non-Americans should not, and usually do not believe either. It's funny when Republicans/Democrats treat either as reputable. They're politicking 101 made into 24/7 news media panic. They're both charlatans and peddlers of lies and cheap tricks; they engage in propaganda and employ journalists who seem to believe that they're anything other than foot soldiers to stir up the masses against XYZ. Everyone knows Fox News is trash, it's laughable when some continue to argue that CNN isn't. Where XYZ can be anything, depending on which way the wind is blowing, sometimes it's each other, sometimes it's internal to the US, sometimes it's external
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- hot_gril 3y ago
  They're both plain ragebait. I wouldn't even take their world news seriously, mainly cause it's low quality. We have better options for mainstream news here, even though it's also under control.
hot_gril 3y ago
> I assume this is a joke? There's no need to be condescending.

blackmesaind 3y ago

Pointing the finger at another is often not a very compelling argument.

mc32 3y ago
what I'm saying is that there are very few sources that don't publish lies or have bents, so we have to do with what we have. Use many sources and triangulate. Some sources are more believable in some areas, less believable in other areas. Some contributors are more believable/truthful than others. It's not all on or off.

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hot_gril 3y ago

Yes, that's exactly how I treat them.