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How can you hold the opinion that AI is both not useful and that it's to bring human extinction? Anyways, incoherence of your argument aside, I'll gladly raise

How can you hold the opinion that AI is both not useful and that it's to bring human extinction? Anyways, incoherence of your argument aside, I'll gladly raise my hand as having a use case that LLMs immediately solved for and it's now a core product feature that performs well.

EGreg 3y ago
Many things are not useful and can bring about human extinction. Viruses, volcanoes, or asteroid inpacts for instance. So it’s not incoherent on its face. But I am not even saying that AI is not useful. I am saying that every single time someone pops up on HN to defend AI vs Web3, they only focus on possible upside right now for some people. Even if AI brings 10000x downside at the same time, they would never ever consider mentioning that. But when society adopts a new technology, downsides matter even more than upsides. Loss of income stability and livelihood for many professions, attacks at scale (eg on reputation or truth) by botswarms, etc etc. And that is just what’s possible with current technology. But most of all, for all its upsides, Web3’s harm is limited to those who voluntarily commit some of their money to a smart contract. AI’s harm on the other hand is far greater and is spread primarily out to those who DIDNT VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE IT or even oppose it. That is not very moral as a society. It may enrich the tech bros further, but just like other tech projects, it will probably come at the expense of many others, especially the working class of society. They will have a rude awakening and will riot. But they aren’t rioting about Web3, because losing money you put at risk in a controlled environment is just not in the same stratosphere. Expect the government to use AI to control the population more and more as this civil unrest happens. Look to China to see what it would look like. Or Palantir for precrime etc.
- j16sdiz 3y ago
  Three post from you in this thread. I downvote two and upvote one. Sometimes, unpopular opinion need more explanation. The other two comments are not helpful, this comment is helpful.
  - EGreg 3y ago
    Thanks. Well — prepare to be downvoted by the anti Web3 brigade heh
- phillipcarter 3y ago
  I guess I'll just say that...I don't believe much of what you're saying is going to happen? I don't think I'll convince you and I don't think you'll convince me either.

EGreg 3y ago

Many things are not useful and can bring about human extinction. Viruses, volcanoes, or asteroid inpacts for instance. So it’s not incoherent on its face. But I am not even saying that AI is not useful. I am saying that every single time someone pops up on HN to defend AI vs Web3, they only focus on possible upside right now for some people. Even if AI brings 10000x downside at the same time, they would never ever consider mentioning that. But when society adopts a new technology, downsides matter even more than upsides. Loss of income stability and livelihood for many professions, attacks at scale (eg on reputation or truth) by botswarms, etc etc. And that is just what’s possible with current technology. But most of all, for all its upsides, Web3’s harm is limited to those who voluntarily commit some of their money to a smart contract. AI’s harm on the other hand is far greater and is spread primarily out to those who DIDNT VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE IT or even oppose it. That is not very moral as a society. It may enrich the tech bros further, but just like other tech projects, it will probably come at the expense of many others, especially the working class of society. They will have a rude awakening and will riot. But they aren’t rioting about Web3, because losing money you put at risk in a controlled environment is just not in the same stratosphere. Expect the government to use AI to control the population more and more as this civil unrest happens. Look to China to see what it would look like. Or Palantir for precrime etc.

j16sdiz 3y ago
Three post from you in this thread. I downvote two and upvote one. Sometimes, unpopular opinion need more explanation. The other two comments are not helpful, this comment is helpful.
- EGreg 3y ago
  Thanks. Well — prepare to be downvoted by the anti Web3 brigade heh
phillipcarter 3y ago
I guess I'll just say that...I don't believe much of what you're saying is going to happen? I don't think I'll convince you and I don't think you'll convince me either.