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Do you have a source for "newly released"? Everything I can find talks about "new" only. I am not surprised that Apple have planned this for a while, because t

Do you have a source for "newly released"? Everything I can find talks about "new" only. I am not surprised that Apple have planned this for a while, because the EU have been pushing this for a while even before making USB-C mandatory. Previously it was only a recommendation for micro-USB, and Apple was practically the only manufacturer that didn't adopt it. If it was such an obvious change, why did it take them 5+ years longer than other manufacturers?

quitit 3y ago
>The new rules would not apply to products placed on the market before the date of application. Source: The European Parliament website. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IPR41928/long-awaited-common-charger-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IP... > Do you have a source for "newly released"? Everything I can find talks about "new" only. Respectfully the only place you need to be looking for this information is the EU parliament website.
- Liquid_Fire 3y ago
  Thank you. In my defence, I did see that page, which (apparently incorrectly) says at the top: > By the end of 2024, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port.
  - happytiger 3y ago
    Bear in mind they are preempting the mandatory change by one product cycle. It’s hardly an argument for a progressive change that wasn’t directly the result of inbound regulation.
    - quitit 3y ago
      If regulation is the case, then they could have waited until iPhone 17 and implemented as nothing more than a port change. That's not what's happened though - the USB3.0 controller is part of the A17Pro chip. It's trivially debunked that this change is in response to EU enforcement merely by observing the timeline of EU legislation and elementary understanding of chip design and lead time/mass production. This isn't suggesting that they didn't see the writing on the wall, but it's patently evident that the decision was made even before the EU considered making type C the mandatory connection standard. As I said already, it's just as likely this is part of their phased transition into the type C connector. Also these MFi arguments for lightning are nonsense, not only are the fees minimal, but they persist with type C. The EU forcing Apple to switch to the type C connector is largely a HN fantasy. It was happening regardless.

quitit 3y ago

>The new rules would not apply to products placed on the market before the date of application. Source: The European Parliament website. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IPR41928/long-awaited-common-charger-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IP... > Do you have a source for "newly released"? Everything I can find talks about "new" only. Respectfully the only place you need to be looking for this information is the EU parliament website.

Liquid_Fire 3y ago
Thank you. In my defence, I did see that page, which (apparently incorrectly) says at the top: > By the end of 2024, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port.
- happytiger 3y ago
  Bear in mind they are preempting the mandatory change by one product cycle. It’s hardly an argument for a progressive change that wasn’t directly the result of inbound regulation.
  - quitit 3y ago
    If regulation is the case, then they could have waited until iPhone 17 and implemented as nothing more than a port change. That's not what's happened though - the USB3.0 controller is part of the A17Pro chip. It's trivially debunked that this change is in response to EU enforcement merely by observing the timeline of EU legislation and elementary understanding of chip design and lead time/mass production. This isn't suggesting that they didn't see the writing on the wall, but it's patently evident that the decision was made even before the EU considered making type C the mandatory connection standard. As I said already, it's just as likely this is part of their phased transition into the type C connector. Also these MFi arguments for lightning are nonsense, not only are the fees minimal, but they persist with type C. The EU forcing Apple to switch to the type C connector is largely a HN fantasy. It was happening regardless.