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If this sounds familiar it's because accredited labs made a similar claims about the iPhone 7/8 and then again the iPhone 11. In each case it was the lab using
by quitit 3y ago
If this sounds familiar it's because accredited labs made a similar claims about the iPhone 7/8 and then again the iPhone 11.
In each case it was the lab using an incorrect methodology.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's happened here. There is a canyon of technical knowhow between RF engineers and testing labs.
- derefr 3y ago> There is a canyon of technical knowhow between RF engineers and testing labs. Why aren't testing labs hiring RF engineers?
- godzillabrennus 3y agoThey won’t get the contract from the OEM if they aren’t known for getting the results the OEM wants. Seems that with qualified people conducting the test they’d be out of business.
- explaininjs 3y agoCould the exact same thing be said about whomever the French are hiring? They want to have findings or else all the money they spent ensuring compliance is effectively wasted.
- querulous 3y agothat presupposes that france wants to ban the phone. charitably they just want an accurate measurement so they can apply their regulations. the lab has no incentive to find either way
- explaininjs 3y agoNo, it presupposes this list of things unrelated to france or phones (or strictly speaking, only the last item on this list): - companies engaged in government contracts would rather continue to be engaged in government contracts than have them be terminated - politicians would prefer to say they spent your taxpayer dollars on something that caused a change which “benefited” you, rather than say they spent them on something that had no perceptible impact - there exist technicians engaged in testing who believe the above two are true, and have the capacity to make micro-decisions in testbench setup that can affect the general bias of the results That all said, based on the other commented here it seems french politicians took EU guidelines for 5mm exposure and demanded those same number at 0mm. So it really is the french politicians wanting to ban the phones.
- ChrisRR 3y ago"RF engineers" is a very broad term. There's RF engineers who understand the dark arts of antenna design and bending the signal to their will, and RF engineers who can click a few buttons to make sure the antenna is within spec
- Someone 3y agoAre you saying those phones were found in non-compliance, too? If so, were they banned?
- sweetrobot2k 3y ago[dead]
- quitit 3y agoNo they were fully compliant, and it's certainly the case here too with the iPhone 12. The bulk of replies to my comment are hilarious to read: ass-talking conspiracy theories presenting zero factual understanding of how RF regulation in the various markets takes place.
- modo_mario 3y agoThis is nothing new. My grandmother worked in a lab testing for compliancy (testing the amount of lead in paints, etc) and had a story or 2 of her getting pressured to use the prescribed methodology which was incorrect. When she refused her boss took it to someone else because the contract with the big company was too pricey to lose.
- ChrisRR 3y agoThere's a canyon of knowledge between a lot of engineers and test labs. You would've thought that a company that provides medical certification would know how to test medical products. But the number of times I've had to explain standards to test houses is not even funny
- andromeduck 3y agoSee Louis Rossman, Linus Sebastian & gang.