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This is why it’s vital that AI is openly available. Imagine a world where Spotify is the only company that can do that, and they use it to make sure they never

This is why it’s vital that AI is openly available. Imagine a world where Spotify is the only company that can do that, and they use it to make sure they never pay royalties again.

bee_rider 3y ago
How is Spotify for finding new music based on your tastes? I’ve only used Amazon and Pandora; Amazon is quite poor, Pandora is pretty good. I suspect (although, without proof) that if a service can’t suggest new music, it will have trouble generating new music as well. Anyway, I very much would rather run this sort of thing locally. You could just manually set your taste profile. Plus, music can be quite personal, imagine you start listening to too much music inspired by The Cure and suddenly Amazon starts advertising black makeup and antidepressants or something like that, it would be too disconcerting.
- magicalhippo 3y ago
  > How is Spotify for finding new music based on your tastes? I haven't tried any alternatives really, but so far for me I'd say decent. I put on an album, and once over it'll play similarish stuff. If I don't like a song I'll skip it and it seems to incorporate that feedback. Only thing is that it doesn't seem to be too adventurous and it adheres rather strictly to the local context. Meaning, if I played a stoner rock track, it'll continue suggesting stoner rock and not much else, even though I have quite varied music favorited in my library. Overall though I've found a lot of new bands I enjoy that way so, positive experience for me. edit: as an example, here are the two most recent ones it suggested where I ended up buying the albums on Bandcamp. Both have quite few monthly listeners (1-2k), so not what I'd call mainstream. SUIR https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zOeQ2hyNfqi9UMHtyTSlF https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zOeQ2hyNfqi9UMHtyTSlF Mount Hush https://open.spotify.com/artist/13clfeXxTPsDsqzSlLIBZJ https://open.spotify.com/artist/13clfeXxTPsDsqzSlLIBZJ
  - seanw444 3y ago
    I'll +1. I'm generally a FOSS guy, so if Spotify hadn't helped so much in discovering new music that I really enjoy, I'd be potentially acquiring music via questionable means and just playing them as audio files directly. There are two companies that have done well by Gabe Newell's "piracy is a service problem - not a price problem" position: Valve/Steam (who also contribute to FOSS through Proton and SteamOS which I heavily appreciate), and Spotify. Spotify makes discovering and aggregating music so easy that the alternatives don't seem appealing.
- K5EiS 3y ago
  I find the discover weekly playlists that are made for me are pretty hit or miss, overall I have found many news songs I like with their help.
  - chankstein38 3y ago
    Same! New songs, new artists, new genres, it's pretty cool! I agree it can be hit or miss but it feels like the longer I use it and the older, and more mature the platform gets, the more hit discover weekly ends up being!
  - viraptor 3y ago
    Similar - I found many good new things. I like the discovery playlists, even with the tracks I don't like. If they never missed, how could they ever suggest something actually different and exciting? It's "discover" not "average of what you already like".
- riskable 3y ago
  I've tried Amazon and Pandora. Spotify is so vastly superior at finding music I like it's in an entirely different league. Having said that, starting about a year ago (maybe ~1.5 years?) Spotify started inserting obviously paid promotion tracks into my auto-generated "Daily Mix n" playlists and it seriously bothered me. When my playlists are made up of very specific genres of EDM and suddenly a pop song plays from a famous person I get seriously angry. It hasn't happened in many months though so maybe they learned their lesson. I was so mad I seriously considered ending my Premium subscription right then and there when that track played.
- chankstein38 3y ago
  Similarly to others, I haven't really used other things in a LONG time but Spotify's Discover Weekly playlist is usually a list of bops that I enjoy a lot. I frequently end up adding a huge portion of them to my liked songs and to regularly used playlists!

This is why it’s vital that AI is openly available. Imagine a world where Spotify is the only company that can do that, and they use it to make sure they never pay royalties again.

bee_rider 3y ago

How is Spotify for finding new music based on your tastes? I’ve only used Amazon and Pandora; Amazon is quite poor, Pandora is pretty good. I suspect (although, without proof) that if a service can’t suggest new music, it will have trouble generating new music as well. Anyway, I very much would rather run this sort of thing locally. You could just manually set your taste profile. Plus, music can be quite personal, imagine you start listening to too much music inspired by The Cure and suddenly Amazon starts advertising black makeup and antidepressants or something like that, it would be too disconcerting.

magicalhippo 3y ago
> How is Spotify for finding new music based on your tastes? I haven't tried any alternatives really, but so far for me I'd say decent. I put on an album, and once over it'll play similarish stuff. If I don't like a song I'll skip it and it seems to incorporate that feedback. Only thing is that it doesn't seem to be too adventurous and it adheres rather strictly to the local context. Meaning, if I played a stoner rock track, it'll continue suggesting stoner rock and not much else, even though I have quite varied music favorited in my library. Overall though I've found a lot of new bands I enjoy that way so, positive experience for me. edit: as an example, here are the two most recent ones it suggested where I ended up buying the albums on Bandcamp. Both have quite few monthly listeners (1-2k), so not what I'd call mainstream. SUIR https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zOeQ2hyNfqi9UMHtyTSlF https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zOeQ2hyNfqi9UMHtyTSlF Mount Hush https://open.spotify.com/artist/13clfeXxTPsDsqzSlLIBZJ https://open.spotify.com/artist/13clfeXxTPsDsqzSlLIBZJ
- seanw444 3y ago
  I'll +1. I'm generally a FOSS guy, so if Spotify hadn't helped so much in discovering new music that I really enjoy, I'd be potentially acquiring music via questionable means and just playing them as audio files directly. There are two companies that have done well by Gabe Newell's "piracy is a service problem - not a price problem" position: Valve/Steam (who also contribute to FOSS through Proton and SteamOS which I heavily appreciate), and Spotify. Spotify makes discovering and aggregating music so easy that the alternatives don't seem appealing.
K5EiS 3y ago
I find the discover weekly playlists that are made for me are pretty hit or miss, overall I have found many news songs I like with their help.
- chankstein38 3y ago
  Same! New songs, new artists, new genres, it's pretty cool! I agree it can be hit or miss but it feels like the longer I use it and the older, and more mature the platform gets, the more hit discover weekly ends up being!
- viraptor 3y ago
  Similar - I found many good new things. I like the discovery playlists, even with the tracks I don't like. If they never missed, how could they ever suggest something actually different and exciting? It's "discover" not "average of what you already like".
riskable 3y ago
I've tried Amazon and Pandora. Spotify is so vastly superior at finding music I like it's in an entirely different league. Having said that, starting about a year ago (maybe ~1.5 years?) Spotify started inserting obviously paid promotion tracks into my auto-generated "Daily Mix n" playlists and it seriously bothered me. When my playlists are made up of very specific genres of EDM and suddenly a pop song plays from a famous person I get seriously angry. It hasn't happened in many months though so maybe they learned their lesson. I was so mad I seriously considered ending my Premium subscription right then and there when that track played.
chankstein38 3y ago
Similarly to others, I haven't really used other things in a LONG time but Spotify's Discover Weekly playlist is usually a list of bops that I enjoy a lot. I frequently end up adding a huge portion of them to my liked songs and to regularly used playlists!