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I love Amazon and will continue to use their store. Just adding some balance here. I don’t immediately watch a clip and decide to protest.

Ensorceled 3y ago
So … this clip is the first bad thing you’ve seen about Amazon and its business practices? Are you one of the 10,000 that is just learning about Amazon today?
- systemvoltage 3y ago
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  - raxxorraxor 3y ago
    Well, if it helps, I am really sorry about your life and that of millions of people. I get it, I order there too occasionally, but...
  - dkdbejwi383 3y ago
    > I oppose unions May I ask why, and if you don't mind, where you're from? I ask because I see anti-union sentiment online fairly often, and typically from Americans. I don't understand why unions are so mistrusted there. I've lived my life in countries where unions are a normal thing that most people wouldn't think twice about, whether they are a member or not.
    - toastercat 3y ago
      I'm American and was in a union before. Some of my coworkers disliked the union because it was mandatory to pay fees when you started the job, whether you took advantage of union benefits or not. There was also an incident where an employee threatened to stab another employee, but because of the union, it was very difficult and time-consuming to get them fired (imagine working next to a guy who threatened to stab you for over a month). That being said, the coworkers who expressed dislike for the union also enjoyed the benefits of guaranteed wage increases, free gym access, and generous holiday time. I think in general in the USA, there is a view that unions slow down progress and create extra bureacracy, which they often do. There are good unions and bad unions.
  - paledot 3y ago
    Unions have provided an immense amount of value to your personal life, and for millions of people. (Even if you've never been a member, unions are both a product and sustainer of the overall labour movement that you have definitely benefited from every day of your working life.) Amazon gave you a 30-day trial of Prime.
uoaei 3y ago
The reaction to this specific clip is merely a synecdoche of the reaction to Amazon's labor practices writ large. If you were following the news about the unionization efforts at Amazon warehouses at all you would know the lengths to which Amazon makes their employees' lives painful. Extremely high injury rates compared to other warehouse jobs, the complete dehumanization experienced in the automated system of quantifying "operational excellence" or whatever euphemism they want to call "invasive tracking and computer-defined evaluation", etc. And if you have friends who work in Amazon corporate, you would know the culture there is generally (though there are exceptions) one that encourages petty politicking, ruthless subjugation to inappropriate KPIs, and the negging-overwork-burnout pipeline engendered by the management style encouraged from above. Amazon succeeds by extracting ruthlessly in all domains. Generally when people understand the scope of these issues, it's only the Land acolytes and the psychopaths who consider Amazon's rise as "progress" unqualified.

Ensorceled 3y ago

So … this clip is the first bad thing you’ve seen about Amazon and its business practices? Are you one of the 10,000 that is just learning about Amazon today?

systemvoltage 3y ago
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- raxxorraxor 3y ago
  Well, if it helps, I am really sorry about your life and that of millions of people. I get it, I order there too occasionally, but...
- dkdbejwi383 3y ago
  > I oppose unions May I ask why, and if you don't mind, where you're from? I ask because I see anti-union sentiment online fairly often, and typically from Americans. I don't understand why unions are so mistrusted there. I've lived my life in countries where unions are a normal thing that most people wouldn't think twice about, whether they are a member or not.
  - toastercat 3y ago
    I'm American and was in a union before. Some of my coworkers disliked the union because it was mandatory to pay fees when you started the job, whether you took advantage of union benefits or not. There was also an incident where an employee threatened to stab another employee, but because of the union, it was very difficult and time-consuming to get them fired (imagine working next to a guy who threatened to stab you for over a month). That being said, the coworkers who expressed dislike for the union also enjoyed the benefits of guaranteed wage increases, free gym access, and generous holiday time. I think in general in the USA, there is a view that unions slow down progress and create extra bureacracy, which they often do. There are good unions and bad unions.
- paledot 3y ago
  Unions have provided an immense amount of value to your personal life, and for millions of people. (Even if you've never been a member, unions are both a product and sustainer of the overall labour movement that you have definitely benefited from every day of your working life.) Amazon gave you a 30-day trial of Prime.

uoaei 3y ago

The reaction to this specific clip is merely a synecdoche of the reaction to Amazon's labor practices writ large. If you were following the news about the unionization efforts at Amazon warehouses at all you would know the lengths to which Amazon makes their employees' lives painful. Extremely high injury rates compared to other warehouse jobs, the complete dehumanization experienced in the automated system of quantifying "operational excellence" or whatever euphemism they want to call "invasive tracking and computer-defined evaluation", etc. And if you have friends who work in Amazon corporate, you would know the culture there is generally (though there are exceptions) one that encourages petty politicking, ruthless subjugation to inappropriate KPIs, and the negging-overwork-burnout pipeline engendered by the management style encouraged from above. Amazon succeeds by extracting ruthlessly in all domains. Generally when people understand the scope of these issues, it's only the Land acolytes and the psychopaths who consider Amazon's rise as "progress" unqualified.