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Be respectful and talk English. And do you think it's unobjective to think that the conservative governements of the past have missed to lay the foundations?

Be respectful and talk English. And do you think it's unobjective to think that the conservative governements of the past have missed to lay the foundations? We're sitting on our slow copper cable internet, due to Helmut fucking Kohl in the late 80s. Since then nobody has made any effort to improve the infrastructure significantly. Instead the Deutsche Post was privatized and now the Telekom has obviously no incentive to lay fiber for fast internet, especially in the rural areas, when they can milk their customers on the copper cables. And that's just one example of how past governments have failed the people. On the other hand it's just funny _how much_ the new government is said to have run this country against the wall after taking over. I'd love if they had done that much at all.

inglor_cz 3y ago
"Since then nobody has made any effort to improve the infrastructure significantly." Isn't that actually a very bad result across the board? Except the far right, every single national party has been in German government since the 1980s. No one can dodge responsibility.
- martin_a 3y ago
  Absolutely, yes. One could discuss if 7 years of SPD/Grüne with Schröder was enough for significant change (well, we did Hartz in that time, so something was done...) after and before 15/16 years CDU-led governments, but that's nitpicking. But what is to be said is that the current government did not "ruin" the country. That has been started decades earlier and we are only now seeing the full extend of lack of innovation and modernization.
pelasaco 3y ago
> We're sitting on our slow copper cable internet, due to Helmut fucking Kohl in the late 80s. Since then nobody has made any effort to improve the infrastructure significantly. ... > Instead the Deutsche Post was privatized and now the Telekom has obviously no incentive to lay fiber for fast internet, especially in the rural areas, when they can milk their customers on the copper cables. I live in a rural area and have Fiber glass, thanks the private competition. I guess you live in a big city, where is hard to roll-out such infrastructure in the necessary speed.

inglor_cz 3y ago

"Since then nobody has made any effort to improve the infrastructure significantly." Isn't that actually a very bad result across the board? Except the far right, every single national party has been in German government since the 1980s. No one can dodge responsibility.

martin_a 3y ago
Absolutely, yes. One could discuss if 7 years of SPD/Grüne with Schröder was enough for significant change (well, we did Hartz in that time, so something was done...) after and before 15/16 years CDU-led governments, but that's nitpicking. But what is to be said is that the current government did not "ruin" the country. That has been started decades earlier and we are only now seeing the full extend of lack of innovation and modernization.

pelasaco 3y ago

> We're sitting on our slow copper cable internet, due to Helmut fucking Kohl in the late 80s. Since then nobody has made any effort to improve the infrastructure significantly. ... > Instead the Deutsche Post was privatized and now the Telekom has obviously no incentive to lay fiber for fast internet, especially in the rural areas, when they can milk their customers on the copper cables. I live in a rural area and have Fiber glass, thanks the private competition. I guess you live in a big city, where is hard to roll-out such infrastructure in the necessary speed.