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This doesn’t address needlessly large EVs that damage roads and are a threat to pedestrians and bicyclists. These larger EVs are also inefficient use of batter

This doesn’t address needlessly large EVs that damage roads and are a threat to pedestrians and bicyclists. These larger EVs are also inefficient use of battery cells than they’d be in smaller vehicles. Would love to see more Mini/Smart car EVs

mytailorisrich 3y ago
A Tesla is heavier than a petrol Range Rover. All EVs are heavy.
- wcoenen 3y ago
  The weight difference of comparable ICE cars and EVs is sometimes surprisingly small when you look at the variant of the EV model with the smaller battery. For example, the BMW X3 is 1670 kg. The Tesla Model Y (SR RWD) is 1778 kg.
  - oblio 3y ago
    That's only for big cars. The smallest Tesla is a D-segment car, cars around 4.7m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment There are 3 different car categories smaller than the smallest Tesla. For smaller cars, EVs are a mess, they're between 25 and 40% heavier than equivalent ICEs, that's a humongous difference.
- oblio 3y ago
  Well, they did say this: > Would love to see more Mini/Smart car EVs Teslas are big cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment, they're not Minis. The smallest Tesla is 4.7m long. There are 3 car categories smaller than the smaller Tesla. But yeah, EVs are heavy.
- Pet_Ant 3y ago
  The larger an EV is the less efficient it is because it has to carry the unloaded battery with it, and it needs more battery for the same function. I don't have the number but I would bet that the energy need is a square of the vehicle weight. It's the same problem rockets have where they have to expend fuel just to carry fuel.
sofixa 3y ago
> Would love to see more Mini/Smart car EVs The Renault Zoe was a best seller in some countries because it's a great city car. Sadly Renault have cut back production due to diminishing margins due to supply chain issues (official version), which is a shame. There's also the Fiat 500 EV.
fomine3 3y ago
It's sad that MINI/Smart are no longer small.

mytailorisrich 3y ago

A Tesla is heavier than a petrol Range Rover. All EVs are heavy.

wcoenen 3y ago
The weight difference of comparable ICE cars and EVs is sometimes surprisingly small when you look at the variant of the EV model with the smaller battery. For example, the BMW X3 is 1670 kg. The Tesla Model Y (SR RWD) is 1778 kg.
- oblio 3y ago
  That's only for big cars. The smallest Tesla is a D-segment car, cars around 4.7m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment There are 3 different car categories smaller than the smallest Tesla. For smaller cars, EVs are a mess, they're between 25 and 40% heavier than equivalent ICEs, that's a humongous difference.
oblio 3y ago
Well, they did say this: > Would love to see more Mini/Smart car EVs Teslas are big cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment, they're not Minis. The smallest Tesla is 4.7m long. There are 3 car categories smaller than the smaller Tesla. But yeah, EVs are heavy.
Pet_Ant 3y ago
The larger an EV is the less efficient it is because it has to carry the unloaded battery with it, and it needs more battery for the same function. I don't have the number but I would bet that the energy need is a square of the vehicle weight. It's the same problem rockets have where they have to expend fuel just to carry fuel.

sofixa 3y ago

> Would love to see more Mini/Smart car EVs The Renault Zoe was a best seller in some countries because it's a great city car. Sadly Renault have cut back production due to diminishing margins due to supply chain issues (official version), which is a shame. There's also the Fiat 500 EV.

fomine3 3y ago

It's sad that MINI/Smart are no longer small.