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I was very much in the pro-vaccine/booster camp. Annoyed at people who were spreading disinfo about it. Didn't think twice about getting my second pfizer dose.

by boppo1 3y ago

I was very much in the pro-vaccine/booster camp. Annoyed at people who were spreading disinfo about it. Didn't think twice about getting my second pfizer dose. I read a variety of studies on MRNA delivery mechanisms and their safety to reassure one of my parents. The morning after, I woke up to scary sharp chest pains that reverberated for a minute or so. This happened about 3-5 more times over the following days. It definitely wasn't psychosomatic as A. I wasn't worried in the first place and B. They hit while I was sleeping. I don't get chest pains normally and am in solid health with regular jogging. When I caught covid ~12 mo. later, it was a really bad flu, but it didn't cause any chest pains. Based on everything I've read, I ought to get one. But after the chest pain, I just can't do it. I'm afraid of it. It's a dilemma because my social set & family are very pro-vaccine and includes a few doctors & scientists. I don't know what I'll say to them. Obviously I can't really talk to other people online about similar experiences.

sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
I started feeling heart flutters days after getting the vaccine. It's like the heart is strongly vibrating, trembling, jerking (nothing like a heartbeat) an lasts from a moment to ~5s. at the time. Happens frequently everyday for 1.5 years now. It's more likely to happen when I exercise (or do something that raises the heart rate), bend down, lie on the left side. Sometimes it happens when I am about to fall asleep, and repeats over and over and over again so I am left without any sleep for a few days. I got tested and was diagnosed with third degree heart block, so I need a pacemaker. I am 26 years old, not overweight nor have any bad habits / addictions, exercise(-d) regularly. It's dreadful.
- boppo1 3y ago
  > I got tested and was diagnosed with third degree heart block Did you tell the doctors your symptoms started after the vaccine? What did they say?
  - sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
    I did mention it once, but they didn't say anything at all, as if they hadn't heard me. I suppose there's no shortage of patients, mistakenly or not, connecting their ailments with the vaccine, and I didn't seem to be any different, regardless of the circumstances. After that, I stopped bringing that up. It does not matter now, anyway...
decremental 3y ago
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sshine 3y ago
> It's a dilemma because my social set & family are very pro-vaccine and includes a few doctors & scientists. I don't know what I'll say to them. We are Bayesian inference machines. We assess risk intuitively. You have different priors than them. We do this when we eat something and get sick: If you say "I'm going to pass on the banana ice cream, but you guys go ahead. I'm in no way against banana ice cream, I just got sick from eating bananas once, and now my body rejects the thought." -- this presumably wouldn't ostracize you. If you were run down by a car once, you're more hesitant when you cross a street. That doesn't make you "anti-street-crossing", and there is no one correct pace or condition under which to cross a street. We just accept people behave differently. People will generally accept, "Oh yeah, he just had a different experience in life." Somehow not taking a vaccine is categorically seen as being "against vaccines". This is too one-dimensional. I had two shots and one booster. I'm not getting more flu shots. I'm too healthy, a flu won't kill me. If a more dangerous strand comes along, I'll reconsider.

by boppo1 3y ago

sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago

I started feeling heart flutters days after getting the vaccine. It's like the heart is strongly vibrating, trembling, jerking (nothing like a heartbeat) an lasts from a moment to ~5s. at the time. Happens frequently everyday for 1.5 years now. It's more likely to happen when I exercise (or do something that raises the heart rate), bend down, lie on the left side. Sometimes it happens when I am about to fall asleep, and repeats over and over and over again so I am left without any sleep for a few days. I got tested and was diagnosed with third degree heart block, so I need a pacemaker. I am 26 years old, not overweight nor have any bad habits / addictions, exercise(-d) regularly. It's dreadful.

boppo1 3y ago
> I got tested and was diagnosed with third degree heart block Did you tell the doctors your symptoms started after the vaccine? What did they say?
- sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
  I did mention it once, but they didn't say anything at all, as if they hadn't heard me. I suppose there's no shortage of patients, mistakenly or not, connecting their ailments with the vaccine, and I didn't seem to be any different, regardless of the circumstances. After that, I stopped bringing that up. It does not matter now, anyway...

decremental 3y ago

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sshine 3y ago

> It's a dilemma because my social set & family are very pro-vaccine and includes a few doctors & scientists. I don't know what I'll say to them. We are Bayesian inference machines. We assess risk intuitively. You have different priors than them. We do this when we eat something and get sick: If you say "I'm going to pass on the banana ice cream, but you guys go ahead. I'm in no way against banana ice cream, I just got sick from eating bananas once, and now my body rejects the thought." -- this presumably wouldn't ostracize you. If you were run down by a car once, you're more hesitant when you cross a street. That doesn't make you "anti-street-crossing", and there is no one correct pace or condition under which to cross a street. We just accept people behave differently. People will generally accept, "Oh yeah, he just had a different experience in life." Somehow not taking a vaccine is categorically seen as being "against vaccines". This is too one-dimensional. I had two shots and one booster. I'm not getting more flu shots. I'm too healthy, a flu won't kill me. If a more dangerous strand comes along, I'll reconsider.