> If you are price sensitive, you are probably not going to buy a Framework laptop. A cost always has to match the value that the product brings to either the

> If you are price sensitive, you are probably not going to buy a Framework laptop. A cost always has to match the value that the product brings to either the buyer themselves or to a cause they care about. For a modular laptop that has real hack value and good Linux support, I really am willing to pay a rather large premium. For example, I also bought a Fairphone which easily costs three times what comparable specs would otherwise set you back, but I really do value what these products both aim for (support for open software; sustainability through longevity). I don't think I'm being "price sensitive" if I say that ~double is too steep for a product that is neither significantly better for me nor for the planet¹. Am I? ¹I never had a laptop physically break in some way, so non-modular hardware that I own also simply lasts until developers decide they want to have another layer of indirection and we collectively get to upgrade anyway. Fairphone's premium partially goes towards more sustainable material sourcing and fair wages > You seem to be constantly arguing It feels like that, yes. I don't know why. Is there a better way I can approach these topics? Some way to frame it differently in my head so it's not arguing, but more constructive somehow. Not that everything here has to be constructive and helpful, like, discussing a topic is not necessarily only saying how wonderful everything is because it simply isn't always wonderful, but it still feels like all I do online is argue and complain. The option that I can see is to simply not post when the message isn't positive, and I've tried that in the past, but being a passive observer is also rather meaningless or dull. Is there another way to improve this that you know of? For what it's worth, it did help me to post this because someone pointed out the headphone jack is actually built in, and that made me think "okay and then I can also forfeit the SD slot and then it works out". So Framework is still an option, and maybe I'll love the product if I decide to get one. But how to get to this point without making people feel like... well, like this I guess: > Please... let it go?