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I’ll take the better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost from not having user replaceable batteries any day. Had to replace an iPhone battery ex

by isatty 3y ago

I’ll take the better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost from not having user replaceable batteries any day. Had to replace an iPhone battery exactly once over the last 3-4 years and it was done for free with applecare, in and out in 30 mins.

slipshady 3y ago
> free with applecare So about $200 depending on what model you have then? I pay for AppleCare+ for my iPhone 11 (mostly because I like not using a case) and it's not free.
noitpmeder 3y ago
Don't you pay a subscription for applecare? So not exacty free
tiborsaas 3y ago
Quartz wristwatches have replaceable batteries since their invention and waterproofing the is not really an issue. > free with applecare That's true in your case, but if someone buys a used model then they might prefer to do it at home especially because of budget issues.
extr0pian 3y ago
Regarding "better water resistance", there have been a ton of phones released in the past that have had water resistance standards of at least IP 67 and that had a user replaceable battery. That part of your argument doesn't hold water.
- jh00ker 3y ago
  I see what you did there!
jh00ker 3y ago
>better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost This is a myth. Look at the Samsung Galaxy S5 (IP67) & Sony XP10 (IP68). (Yeah, I'm a big Louis Rossmann fan; I learned this from his videos.) Even if it were true, are you telling me Apple couldn't engineer a solution to the problem and turn it into a key marketing element boasting their innovation?
atyppo 3y ago
My iPhone's battery health has been stuck at 83% for nearly 15 months. It was only 9 months old (purchased brand new) when it reached 83%. Apple will not replace with Applecare unless it is below 80%. Something doesn't add up there.
- dahwolf 3y ago
  Let me guess...fast charging? Don't do it. Ruins batteries.
prennert 3y ago
Waterproofing in terms of actually being able to use the phone under water or not breaking when it falls into water (i.e. it will switch itself off when submerged and after it dried it will work again)?
- gibolt 3y ago
  I had an Android phone from Motorola (that cost $10) that could be fully submerged. The seal mechanism was bulky and the phone was hot garbage. For me, battery life for days in airplane mode is good enough if it means never worrying about liquid
sam345 3y ago
And paid how much for Applecare over the 3-4 years?
Modified3019 3y ago
There is a technology called “rubber o-rings” that has allowed for waterproof/resistant user replaceable battery designs in cell phones since they came out.

by isatty 3y ago

slipshady 3y ago

> free with applecare So about $200 depending on what model you have then? I pay for AppleCare+ for my iPhone 11 (mostly because I like not using a case) and it's not free.

noitpmeder 3y ago

Don't you pay a subscription for applecare? So not exacty free

tiborsaas 3y ago

Quartz wristwatches have replaceable batteries since their invention and waterproofing the is not really an issue. > free with applecare That's true in your case, but if someone buys a used model then they might prefer to do it at home especially because of budget issues.

extr0pian 3y ago

Regarding "better water resistance", there have been a ton of phones released in the past that have had water resistance standards of at least IP 67 and that had a user replaceable battery. That part of your argument doesn't hold water.

jh00ker 3y ago
I see what you did there!

jh00ker 3y ago

>better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost This is a myth. Look at the Samsung Galaxy S5 (IP67) & Sony XP10 (IP68). (Yeah, I'm a big Louis Rossmann fan; I learned this from his videos.) Even if it were true, are you telling me Apple couldn't engineer a solution to the problem and turn it into a key marketing element boasting their innovation?

atyppo 3y ago

My iPhone's battery health has been stuck at 83% for nearly 15 months. It was only 9 months old (purchased brand new) when it reached 83%. Apple will not replace with Applecare unless it is below 80%. Something doesn't add up there.

dahwolf 3y ago
Let me guess...fast charging? Don't do it. Ruins batteries.

prennert 3y ago

Waterproofing in terms of actually being able to use the phone under water or not breaking when it falls into water (i.e. it will switch itself off when submerged and after it dried it will work again)?

gibolt 3y ago
I had an Android phone from Motorola (that cost $10) that could be fully submerged. The seal mechanism was bulky and the phone was hot garbage. For me, battery life for days in airplane mode is good enough if it means never worrying about liquid

sam345 3y ago

And paid how much for Applecare over the 3-4 years?

Modified3019 3y ago

There is a technology called “rubber o-rings” that has allowed for waterproof/resistant user replaceable battery designs in cell phones since they came out.