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People believing that in the mobile space Godot can be a replacement to Unity are delusional, in 10 years maybe? Godot is a "mature" toy engine. There is not a

by Thaxll 3y ago

People believing that in the mobile space Godot can be a replacement to Unity are delusional, in 10 years maybe? Godot is a "mature" toy engine. There is not a single quality / money maker game that shipped on Godot.

all2 3y ago
> Godot is a "mature" toy engine. This does not seem to be related to this: > There is not a single quality / money maker game that shipped on Godot. There's some missing context in the middle. I'm curious how one implies the other? I'd be game for chains of logic going from first -> second or vice versa. I'm specifically curious, what is Godot missing?
- Thaxll 3y ago
  Godot is missing the game that shows this engine is a viable alternative to Unity at large. I mean look at the showcase: https://godotengine.org/showcase/ https://godotengine.org/showcase/ It all looks amateur. All the mobile dev work on Unity so you better have good reasons to change the entire pipeline.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - unleaded 3y ago
    so nobody wants to make a fancy looking game because nobody's made a fancy looking game... hmm...
    - Thaxll 3y ago
      You don't want to be the first one to make the jump.
  - Waterluvian 3y ago
    Having wandered around a ton of game engines over the years, they all have the "showcase games, none of which really feel polished." I dunno... Godot's showcase has a lot that look quite polished. I think from a business perspective, I'd be more at ease if they could advertise any profitable games. Not that games need to be profitable, but there's some value in knowing other people tried and succeeded to use Godot commercially. Someone should be the first!
  - kilolima 3y ago
    Maybe having a game engine that is universal for mobile, console, and PC is the problem. I'm not interested in playing mobile or console games or the type of gameplay they encourage. I'd like a PC game engine for PC games.
  - tapoxi 3y ago
    Cassette Beasts and Cruelty Squad were both critically acclaimed, with Cassette Beasts also shipping on Xbox and Switch.
spinningD20 3y ago
This seems like a negatively charged take. Vampire Survivors could have been made in a ton of different engines that are far far less capable that Godot, for example. The engine is not the thing that holds back a product from succeeding. This is the same as saying "no FAANG company uses X language/platform so X is a toy", it's far too reductive and not actual reality.
- TylerE 3y ago
  As someone who’s played a lot of games… I disagree. These days I specifically avoid Unity games because they always feel janky, and yes it absolutely is the engine.
  - kaibee 3y ago
    > yes it absolutely is the engine. As someone who has used Unity a lot, it really isn't the engine. You're only noticing this is the whole "no good toupees" thing. The thing is, the Unity Assetstore makes it very easy to hack together something that kind of works, but because nothing will quite fit together it'll be a janky mess.
  - bjord 3y ago
    Do you think Rust and Escape From Tarkov are janky? (just off the top of my head) https://rust.facepunch.com https://rust.facepunch.com https://www.escapefromtarkov.com https://www.escapefromtarkov.com
    - TylerE 3y ago
      Yes to both, Tarkov in particular. Didn't that game have totally broken directional audio for over a year at one point?
    - steveklabnik 3y ago
      Tarkov, while a great game, is very janky, and has a cheater problem. I have heard these things attributed to Unity, though I am not familiar enough with the details to say that's absolutely true. Rust is fine though, in my experience. (and yes I do mean the video game in this context, hahaha)
JSLegendDev 3y ago
Dave the diver is a successful game made in Godot : https://store.steampowered.com/app/1868140/DAVE_THE_DIVER/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1868140/DAVE_THE_DIVER/ Granted it's not a mobile game but still.
- mlok 3y ago
  Thank you, I wanted to see quality examples like this. I'd love to find a list of high-quality polished games made in Godot, like this one.

by Thaxll 3y ago

all2 3y ago

> Godot is a "mature" toy engine. This does not seem to be related to this: > There is not a single quality / money maker game that shipped on Godot. There's some missing context in the middle. I'm curious how one implies the other? I'd be game for chains of logic going from first -> second or vice versa. I'm specifically curious, what is Godot missing?

Thaxll 3y ago
Godot is missing the game that shows this engine is a viable alternative to Unity at large. I mean look at the showcase: https://godotengine.org/showcase/ https://godotengine.org/showcase/ It all looks amateur. All the mobile dev work on Unity so you better have good reasons to change the entire pipeline.
- deleted 3y ago
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- unleaded 3y ago
  so nobody wants to make a fancy looking game because nobody's made a fancy looking game... hmm...
  - Thaxll 3y ago
    You don't want to be the first one to make the jump.
- Waterluvian 3y ago
  Having wandered around a ton of game engines over the years, they all have the "showcase games, none of which really feel polished." I dunno... Godot's showcase has a lot that look quite polished. I think from a business perspective, I'd be more at ease if they could advertise any profitable games. Not that games need to be profitable, but there's some value in knowing other people tried and succeeded to use Godot commercially. Someone should be the first!
- kilolima 3y ago
  Maybe having a game engine that is universal for mobile, console, and PC is the problem. I'm not interested in playing mobile or console games or the type of gameplay they encourage. I'd like a PC game engine for PC games.
- tapoxi 3y ago
  Cassette Beasts and Cruelty Squad were both critically acclaimed, with Cassette Beasts also shipping on Xbox and Switch.

spinningD20 3y ago

This seems like a negatively charged take. Vampire Survivors could have been made in a ton of different engines that are far far less capable that Godot, for example. The engine is not the thing that holds back a product from succeeding. This is the same as saying "no FAANG company uses X language/platform so X is a toy", it's far too reductive and not actual reality.

TylerE 3y ago
As someone who’s played a lot of games… I disagree. These days I specifically avoid Unity games because they always feel janky, and yes it absolutely is the engine.
- kaibee 3y ago
  > yes it absolutely is the engine. As someone who has used Unity a lot, it really isn't the engine. You're only noticing this is the whole "no good toupees" thing. The thing is, the Unity Assetstore makes it very easy to hack together something that kind of works, but because nothing will quite fit together it'll be a janky mess.
- bjord 3y ago
  Do you think Rust and Escape From Tarkov are janky? (just off the top of my head) https://rust.facepunch.com https://rust.facepunch.com https://www.escapefromtarkov.com https://www.escapefromtarkov.com
  - TylerE 3y ago
    Yes to both, Tarkov in particular. Didn't that game have totally broken directional audio for over a year at one point?
  - steveklabnik 3y ago
    Tarkov, while a great game, is very janky, and has a cheater problem. I have heard these things attributed to Unity, though I am not familiar enough with the details to say that's absolutely true. Rust is fine though, in my experience. (and yes I do mean the video game in this context, hahaha)

JSLegendDev 3y ago

Dave the diver is a successful game made in Godot : https://store.steampowered.com/app/1868140/DAVE_THE_DIVER/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1868140/DAVE_THE_DIVER/ Granted it's not a mobile game but still.

mlok 3y ago
Thank you, I wanted to see quality examples like this. I'd love to find a list of high-quality polished games made in Godot, like this one.