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I know a lot of people are apprehensive about the Apple Vision Pro, but seeing that I'll be able to take Spatial Videos with the iPhone 15 Pro Max was a huge fe

I know a lot of people are apprehensive about the Apple Vision Pro, but seeing that I'll be able to take Spatial Videos with the iPhone 15 Pro Max was a huge feature for me. I can't see myself ever taking those videos with the headset itself, but if I can do it from my phone and re-watch the videos later, that's a massive QoL improvement imo. That alone makes the upgrade worth it for me since I'm planning on picking up the Vision Pro!

rvnx 3y ago
It's a software thing, so maybe they can just add it to iOS 17 and that's it.
- jdminhbg 3y ago
  It's software plus cameras, they're stitching together video from various focal lengths. I don't think the non-Pro Max models will ever be able to do it.
  - rvnx 3y ago
    Yes, of course. I meant for iPhone 14 Pro. I wonder if they will release the feature there as well or restrict it artificially.
    - jdminhbg 3y ago
      The 15 Pro Max has more and more different cameras than the 14 Pro does. I don't know whether it would actually work or not.
  - atommclain 3y ago
    Rewatching the event video, it sounds recording spatial videos is supported on both 15 Pro models (time stamp ~1:17:30). I don't see anything on the compare iPhone models page though: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/
quitit 3y ago
That was one of the more realistic complaints about the vision pro, "why would you take photos with it instead of experiencing the moment directly". A few people suggested that the iPhone will probably come into the equation, and it seems they were correct in that thinking (the timings suggest Apple had it planned this way.)
- dvngnt_ 3y ago
  POV. iykyk
- dexterdog 3y ago
  Have you been to anything involving kids performing in front of parents? Half of them are experiencing it through their phone. Very few people experience moments directly. The funny part is that unless something crazy happens very few of those videos ever get watched.
  - quitit 3y ago
    I feel that's not a reasonable comparison, filming something with a camera versus wearing a headset. While I agree that holding up a phone in front of your face presents some degree of being disconnected from the action, I feel wearing a headset where one's entire view of the scene is a computed feed via cameras is totally disconnected. So I do still agree that it wasn't a reasonable suggestion that people would be filming important life events while wearing their APV headset.
    - ptd 3y ago
      Just out of curiosity-how old are you? This pushback reminds me of teachers trying to fight phones in the classroom.
      - quitit 3y ago
        It's a human behaviour questions. So I don't feel my age is relevant here, since I am not everyone. If you think it's reasonable that a person is going to be strapped into a headset at a child's birthday party, then that is indicative of what you believe would be socially normal or acceptable behaviour. I dare say other family members or guests won't see it that way. In my opinion the idea of any person walking around with a headset on in social settings is not realistic. There is a not subtle difference between picking up a phone and filming something versus living an event where the only visual stimulus one receives is a second hand video feed. The discussion here seems to be pinned to an idea that this is equivalent, I can say very confidently that it is not. Side note: I don't live in a bubble, I'm pretty accustomed to watching the stage via other people's phone screens when I don't have a direct view. I also film when I have someone in mind to share it with. However the idea that people are filming to use the footage is largely wrong, they're excited and enjoying the moment and want to capture that somehow, so out comes the phone, they might show some of it to a friend later, or a social post, but largely it's unused and not looked back upon. This behaviour is not comparable to wearing a headset.
cypress66 3y ago
I personally find stereo/3d video basically no more immersive than regular video. I wouldn't bother putting a headset just for that. It needs to be like VR 360 video where you can look around to be worth it.
- dmix 3y ago
  Well I see Vision as just a secondary computing platform like using an iPad. Something you throw on, on the couch after work, and chill for an hour or two messing around, while messaging people in the Vision (sending photos back/forth). So basically you wouldn't need to put it on to watch them but you'd regularly already have it on, instead of, say, watching TV. VR googles for those videos aren't exactly a hard requirement either if you're on the go. If it stops being a novelty like "see this amazing experience in VR" where you hype yourself up and put work on doing it just for that - sure - it's not very amazing. But when it comes normal and integrated into a computing platform you already use daily it's definitely a plus.
- jimmySixDOF 3y ago
  I don't think they are stopping at today's version of 3D video. https://www.whathifi.com/news/new-godzilla-series-hints-vr-movies-could-pick-up-where-3d-left-off https://www.whathifi.com/news/new-godzilla-series-hints-vr-m...
acid__ 3y ago
Prediction: There will soon be a lot more VR “content” available with the proliferation of VR-capable recording devices. This could be a big push towards making the metaverse more compelling.
- r00fus 3y ago
  The "metaverse" is as dead as 3D TV. It's not really coming anytime soon.
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    I don't think so. The metaverse is the obvious endgame for entertainment. The only question is how long it takes to get there. Zero marginal cost everything is just a continuation of what made software so succesful so I think it should be clear to HN users why the idea behind the metaverse is so powerful.
dmix 3y ago
Vacation photos and kids birthday memories are about to get way more interesting. What are the TikTok implications?

rvnx 3y ago

It's a software thing, so maybe they can just add it to iOS 17 and that's it.

jdminhbg 3y ago
It's software plus cameras, they're stitching together video from various focal lengths. I don't think the non-Pro Max models will ever be able to do it.
- rvnx 3y ago
  Yes, of course. I meant for iPhone 14 Pro. I wonder if they will release the feature there as well or restrict it artificially.
  - jdminhbg 3y ago
    The 15 Pro Max has more and more different cameras than the 14 Pro does. I don't know whether it would actually work or not.
- atommclain 3y ago
  Rewatching the event video, it sounds recording spatial videos is supported on both 15 Pro models (time stamp ~1:17:30). I don't see anything on the compare iPhone models page though: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

quitit 3y ago

That was one of the more realistic complaints about the vision pro, "why would you take photos with it instead of experiencing the moment directly". A few people suggested that the iPhone will probably come into the equation, and it seems they were correct in that thinking (the timings suggest Apple had it planned this way.)

dvngnt_ 3y ago
POV. iykyk
dexterdog 3y ago
Have you been to anything involving kids performing in front of parents? Half of them are experiencing it through their phone. Very few people experience moments directly. The funny part is that unless something crazy happens very few of those videos ever get watched.
- quitit 3y ago
  I feel that's not a reasonable comparison, filming something with a camera versus wearing a headset. While I agree that holding up a phone in front of your face presents some degree of being disconnected from the action, I feel wearing a headset where one's entire view of the scene is a computed feed via cameras is totally disconnected. So I do still agree that it wasn't a reasonable suggestion that people would be filming important life events while wearing their APV headset.
  - ptd 3y ago
    Just out of curiosity-how old are you? This pushback reminds me of teachers trying to fight phones in the classroom.
    - quitit 3y ago
      It's a human behaviour questions. So I don't feel my age is relevant here, since I am not everyone. If you think it's reasonable that a person is going to be strapped into a headset at a child's birthday party, then that is indicative of what you believe would be socially normal or acceptable behaviour. I dare say other family members or guests won't see it that way. In my opinion the idea of any person walking around with a headset on in social settings is not realistic. There is a not subtle difference between picking up a phone and filming something versus living an event where the only visual stimulus one receives is a second hand video feed. The discussion here seems to be pinned to an idea that this is equivalent, I can say very confidently that it is not. Side note: I don't live in a bubble, I'm pretty accustomed to watching the stage via other people's phone screens when I don't have a direct view. I also film when I have someone in mind to share it with. However the idea that people are filming to use the footage is largely wrong, they're excited and enjoying the moment and want to capture that somehow, so out comes the phone, they might show some of it to a friend later, or a social post, but largely it's unused and not looked back upon. This behaviour is not comparable to wearing a headset.

cypress66 3y ago

I personally find stereo/3d video basically no more immersive than regular video. I wouldn't bother putting a headset just for that. It needs to be like VR 360 video where you can look around to be worth it.

dmix 3y ago
Well I see Vision as just a secondary computing platform like using an iPad. Something you throw on, on the couch after work, and chill for an hour or two messing around, while messaging people in the Vision (sending photos back/forth). So basically you wouldn't need to put it on to watch them but you'd regularly already have it on, instead of, say, watching TV. VR googles for those videos aren't exactly a hard requirement either if you're on the go. If it stops being a novelty like "see this amazing experience in VR" where you hype yourself up and put work on doing it just for that - sure - it's not very amazing. But when it comes normal and integrated into a computing platform you already use daily it's definitely a plus.
jimmySixDOF 3y ago
I don't think they are stopping at today's version of 3D video. https://www.whathifi.com/news/new-godzilla-series-hints-vr-movies-could-pick-up-where-3d-left-off https://www.whathifi.com/news/new-godzilla-series-hints-vr-m...

acid__ 3y ago

Prediction: There will soon be a lot more VR “content” available with the proliferation of VR-capable recording devices. This could be a big push towards making the metaverse more compelling.

r00fus 3y ago
The "metaverse" is as dead as 3D TV. It's not really coming anytime soon.
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  I don't think so. The metaverse is the obvious endgame for entertainment. The only question is how long it takes to get there. Zero marginal cost everything is just a continuation of what made software so succesful so I think it should be clear to HN users why the idea behind the metaverse is so powerful.

dmix 3y ago

Vacation photos and kids birthday memories are about to get way more interesting. What are the TikTok implications?