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USB 2.0 on the 15 is kind of a joke considering it came out in April of 2000. 60hz, USB 2.0, getting a bit dated. I know a bunch of people will excuse it but a
by post_break 3y ago
USB 2.0 on the 15 is kind of a joke considering it came out in April of 2000. 60hz, USB 2.0, getting a bit dated. I know a bunch of people will excuse it but at that price I think it's not ideal.
Oh and RIP 13 Mini, you'll be my phone until I can't use it anymore I suppose.
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- dmix 3y agoHas the EU legislation factored in the USB-*(D?) might come next? Hopefully it doesn't slow down adoption of new technology. The main downside instead of buying a lightning cable that always work we now have to decipher the 10 minor variations of USB-C's various speeds/power now with zero consistency in naming schemes or amazon titles.
- post_break 3y agoThe iPhone is literally the last hold out for USB C. I'm pretty sure every modern Android phone supports USB PD and I think the EU is requiring PD charging as well, but nothing on connectivity speeds.
- zapnuk 3y agoIf there is a USB-*, the EU can just update the policy for new devices with a grace period of X years. Problem solved.
- dzikimarian 3y agoEU legislation has review built-in. No way it's going to be slower than switch from lightning. Also from other commenters say Apple implemented USB 2.0, so you don't have to care about type of USB-C cable you're buying - these are for advanced features which as it seems are not present in iPhone 15.
- whoopdedo 3y ago> RIP 13 Mini I wish I had been warned so I could have grabbed one before it was gone.
- data-ottawa 3y agoYou can still buy one from other retailers
- lh7777 3y agoAny suggestions? I see Best Buy has some open box minis for $630 and there are plenty of 3rd party refurbs for around $500. Feels like I'd have been better off buying a brand new one for $600 yesterday.
- pkulak 3y agoI keep using Swappa, and it still works, even though no individual sellers are left.
- whoopdedo 3y agoBut for how long? Can't buy an unlocked phone from a carrier. Only other authorized resellers either don't sell phones (B&H, Adorama, Staples), have a limited selection which is in-store only (Target, Walmart), which leaves only Best Buy and right now I see everything on backorder. Now that Apple isn't taking new orders there's a good chance those will be cancelled. And then there's the roulette wheel of buying from Amazon or Newegg where you might get a refurbished phone advertised as "new" if it isn't a literal brick in a box. Still comes down to my fault for being slow to act. I said I wished for a warning but you know what they say about wishes. (For context of how slow I am, I'd be upgrading from a SE (2016))
- tass 3y agoCheck the stores. I remember seeing old cycle products still for sale the week between announcement and the release date. Not necessarily true this time but you might get lucky.
- data-ottawa 3y agoOn the topic of the mini being removed, they also removed the plus and 13/14 Pro models. I wonder if they had a lot of 13 Pro purchases after they discounted it last year, which they felt could have been 14 Pro purchases.
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- NikolaNovak 3y agoBoo. Just like with some car manufacturers, if you want e.g. increased safety or radar cruise control, you also need $10k of leather seats and sunroofs; by removing previous Pro models, Apple basically adds a massive price premium to the zoom lens. As this is honestly the only thing I would need from a new phone, my wife and I stay on our iPhone XR year after year. I just can't pay $1500CAD merely to get more optical zoom than my existing phone :-/
- r00fus 3y agoOr just buy used.
- NikolaNovak 3y agoRight, but my point is that this particular artificial market segmentation is keeping Apple from getting my money. Buying used won't help them.
- HelloImSteven 3y agoYou can still get previous Pro/Pro Max versions as refurbs from Apple. Not the same as buying new, but still nice that they have them.
- hbn 3y agoThey were selling the 13 Pro after the 14 Pro came out? I was pretty sure they always removed last year's Pro from the lineup when the new Pro comes out. Meanwhile last year's baseline models will stick around at a reduced price.
- llm_nerd 3y agoSounds like the A16 just doesn't have the I/O block for USB 3. They are using the chip from the last generation for the base model. Though to put this in a realistic context, I am curious what percentage of iPhones have ever, over their usage lifespan, made a data connection over USB. I suspect that percentage is low single-digit percentages, and -- again speculating -- I would wager they are almost always by users with the pro models. Is it lame that it's USB 2.0? Yes. Will it matter at all for the overwhelming majority of users? Not in the slightest.
- skunkworker 3y agoAnd those users who will use the Pro for video/photos can now transfer them to external storage while shooting (finally).
- NikolaNovak 3y agoI have had a company mandated iPhone for about 4-5 years. First year, I tried to transfer data via USB. After I accepted that Apple hates me personally and does not want me to transfer any of my voice memos, photos, or videos, or documents, or files via USB (I don't have a macbook), you are indeed correct and I'm one of those people who does not make a data connection via USB to my iPhone. But while stat is true, as with all such stats, devil is in the details :).
- whycome 3y ago> Apple hates me Actually, you're exactly the person they love. Just enough annoyance to consider a macbook and iCloud.
- pubutil 3y agoI got around this limitation by adding my home NAS to the Files app. On the iOS side: set up the SMB connection in Files, hit the Share button on files I want to transfer, point it to a folder on the NAS, and transfer. On the PC side, I just grab the file in Explorer. Airdrop works well for sharing files to other people's iOS devices, but I'd argue SMB is actually better for my use case. Airdrop sends files to a Mac's Downloads folder. SMB transferred files go exactly where I want them on the first try. The difference is just a couple extra taps in the 'Share' modal. Though I must admit this isn't a solution for everyone. I doubt many iPhone users have a NAS stood up at home and would be happy to spend money on the 'simpler' solution of purchasing turnkey products and services from Apple.
- GloriousKoji 3y agoUSB3 (on USBC) is actually asymmetric signaling so you need either a separate chip or digital logic to handle muxing the signals around which is extra cost Apple probably doesn't want to eat. The USB-2 pins on USBC are symmetrical so nothing extra required.
- Kirby64 3y agoStandard USB3 on USB-C does not require any muxing. It's only muxing if you need to do displayport, alt modes, etc etc.
- whakim 3y agoI will say the 15 Pro is a little smaller than the 14 Pro, and while it isn't a small phone per se, it's a lot smaller than most Android flagships. That's something at least.
- seydor 3y agothey are holding it for next year's upgrade
- bit_logic 3y agoUSB 2.0 is a missed opportunity for bringing Stage Manager/screen mirroring feature from iPadOS to iPhone. This is already possible with iPad and a USB A + HDMI -> USB C adapter (plug keyboard/mouse into USB A, monitor into HDMI, and USB C into iPad).
- NotYourLawyer 3y agoI don’t remember the last time I used a wire to transfer data to/from my phone. This seems like a non issue.
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