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Was really hoping they'd add back the headphone jack with this change, but no such luck this time around :(

by _bohm 3y ago

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bodge5000 3y ago
Knew it wouldn't happen but was hoping for the same thing. I really like the iOS software, but I have no plans to buy a phone without USB-C and a headphone jack. Close but no cigar
wvenable 3y ago
With Airpods being essentially an industry onto itself, this seems very unlikely. I used to care about the headphone jack but wireless earbuds have become so good and so convenient that it seems a bit anachronistic now. I have a UBC-C to headphone adapter for emergencies and it's permanently affixed to my wired headphones but I can't remember the last time I used it.
- ghaff 3y ago
  I still use my wired Bose earphones in a plane (and presumably I'll get a USB-C adapter for them to replace my Lightning one whenever I get around to upgrading my phone) but really Airpods are fine for most everything else.
- _bohm 3y ago
  Yeah I'm not really a fan of wireless headphones, personally. I'd just like to use my DT 770s to listen to music on my phone without having to bring an extra adapter with me everywhere, and while being able to charge the phone at the same time if necessary.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    I assume a version exists for USB-C but my Lightning to 3.5mm headset adapter also includes a Lightning charger port so I can charge my phone at the same time.
  - mshaler 3y ago
    Ever since the iPad Pro came out, Appe has had a first-party 3.5 female to USB-C dongle for wired audio
  - hbn 3y ago
    Not to sound like a paid Apple marketer, but I think there's a distinction between wireless headphones and using AirPods with an iPhone. It's not like it's a herculean effort to use wireless headphones with a standard bluetooth connection, but it's enough of an awkward series of moves that I never enjoyed it. But I have to give Apple credit that AirPods (with an iPhone) just work way more seamlessly, to the point where the idea of quickly tossing them in and out of my ears isn't an annoyance. If I'm playing a video game and I want to listen to a podcast, I pop one into my ear, press play on my phone and I'm listening. When I'm done I simply put it in the case and it disconnects and is charging. I have a pair of Sony XM3's but as soon as I got the AirPods I basically never touched them again.
    - sotix 3y ago
      Using AirPods with an iPhone really is great. The annoying thing is my Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones connect to a Google pixel very similarly to how AirPods connect to an iPhone. I wish that pairing process were more open on iPhone because it really does improve the Bluetooth experience, which is otherwise dreadful compared to the simplicity of a headphone jack. It would have been nice to see Apple add that feature and the headphone jack back with this update. They’ve captured the wireless market. Now give us a standard connector again.
xnx 3y ago
I miss the headphone jack about as much as I miss floppy drives. I have a USB-C to headphone jack adapter, but haven't used it in years.
- bodge5000 3y ago
  The problem is that floppy disks were replaced with another medium that did the same thing but better. You might think the same thing happened with the headphone jack, but my phone has a headphone jack and handles wireless audio just fine. We didn't gain wireless, we just lost wired.
  - rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago
    Floppies didn't get scratched like CDs do. For years, there were desktops that shipped with both a floppy drive and a CD drive. When Apple chose to abandon floppy drives (they did sell an external one), some people were initially upset, but everyone eventually moved on.
    - bodge5000 3y ago
      Floppies to CDs is more like a comparison of 3.5mm and 6.3mm, because they both do the same thing but with different form factors and different advantages. Wireless audio performs the same base task as wired but it doesn't do the same thing.
- VincentEvans 3y ago
  Conversely, I miss: - dedicated “home” button instead of the fancy “swipe up” - because of how frequently my toddler accidentally swipes up when playing her games. Or how often I enter the “expose” mode when trying to drag something like an email near the bottom of the screen. - power button located on top, rather than on the side where i typically hold my phone because of how many times I accidentally lock the screen that stops the video i was listening to when trying to grab my phone, or accidentally take a screenshot of the lock screen when trying to insert the phone into the cradle in my car. - the small size of the original iphone which was tiny rather than the modern versions that keep getting larger. - and yes, I miss the damn stereo connector which allowed me to charge the phone while playing audio without dealing with bluetooth. I wish they released “iphone classic” the size of the original iphone with modern insides and hardware buttons in places where they used to be.
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coldpie 3y ago
It's not ideal, but the USB-C-to-3.5mm adapters work well enough. They do break, so buy a handful. I'd prefer the jack, but I can (and do) live with this.
- _bohm 3y ago
  Yup, they work. It really just seems like quite an unnecessary frustration to have to bring one everywhere, and to not be able to charge my phone while listening to music
  - coldpie 3y ago
    They do make combo charge & listen adapters. I've got one from Anker, works fine.
- asah 3y ago
  plus, you can use an external higher-quality DAC...
  - astrange 3y ago
    The official DAC is just as good or better than most alternatives, who can't actually afford to develop something to match their marketing. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... Google's adapter is not as good. It's okay though.
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faeriechangling 3y ago
I saw the introduction of MagSafe as being a quality of life thing for headphone users that use lighting-to-3.5 or usb-to-3.5 adapters, since it allows for charging and headphone usage simultaneously. Just keep the adapter plugged into your headphones. I don't really see the sense in them adding back the headphone port given the form factor and the viable alternatives.

Was really hoping they'd add back the headphone jack with this change, but no such luck this time around :(

by _bohm 3y ago

Was really hoping they'd add back the headphone jack with this change, but no such luck this time around :(

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bodge5000 3y ago

Knew it wouldn't happen but was hoping for the same thing. I really like the iOS software, but I have no plans to buy a phone without USB-C and a headphone jack. Close but no cigar

wvenable 3y ago

With Airpods being essentially an industry onto itself, this seems very unlikely. I used to care about the headphone jack but wireless earbuds have become so good and so convenient that it seems a bit anachronistic now. I have a UBC-C to headphone adapter for emergencies and it's permanently affixed to my wired headphones but I can't remember the last time I used it.

ghaff 3y ago
I still use my wired Bose earphones in a plane (and presumably I'll get a USB-C adapter for them to replace my Lightning one whenever I get around to upgrading my phone) but really Airpods are fine for most everything else.
_bohm 3y ago
Yeah I'm not really a fan of wireless headphones, personally. I'd just like to use my DT 770s to listen to music on my phone without having to bring an extra adapter with me everywhere, and while being able to charge the phone at the same time if necessary.
- ghaff 3y ago
  I assume a version exists for USB-C but my Lightning to 3.5mm headset adapter also includes a Lightning charger port so I can charge my phone at the same time.
- mshaler 3y ago
  Ever since the iPad Pro came out, Appe has had a first-party 3.5 female to USB-C dongle for wired audio
- hbn 3y ago
  Not to sound like a paid Apple marketer, but I think there's a distinction between wireless headphones and using AirPods with an iPhone. It's not like it's a herculean effort to use wireless headphones with a standard bluetooth connection, but it's enough of an awkward series of moves that I never enjoyed it. But I have to give Apple credit that AirPods (with an iPhone) just work way more seamlessly, to the point where the idea of quickly tossing them in and out of my ears isn't an annoyance. If I'm playing a video game and I want to listen to a podcast, I pop one into my ear, press play on my phone and I'm listening. When I'm done I simply put it in the case and it disconnects and is charging. I have a pair of Sony XM3's but as soon as I got the AirPods I basically never touched them again.
  - sotix 3y ago
    Using AirPods with an iPhone really is great. The annoying thing is my Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones connect to a Google pixel very similarly to how AirPods connect to an iPhone. I wish that pairing process were more open on iPhone because it really does improve the Bluetooth experience, which is otherwise dreadful compared to the simplicity of a headphone jack. It would have been nice to see Apple add that feature and the headphone jack back with this update. They’ve captured the wireless market. Now give us a standard connector again.

xnx 3y ago

I miss the headphone jack about as much as I miss floppy drives. I have a USB-C to headphone jack adapter, but haven't used it in years.

bodge5000 3y ago
The problem is that floppy disks were replaced with another medium that did the same thing but better. You might think the same thing happened with the headphone jack, but my phone has a headphone jack and handles wireless audio just fine. We didn't gain wireless, we just lost wired.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago
  Floppies didn't get scratched like CDs do. For years, there were desktops that shipped with both a floppy drive and a CD drive. When Apple chose to abandon floppy drives (they did sell an external one), some people were initially upset, but everyone eventually moved on.
  - bodge5000 3y ago
    Floppies to CDs is more like a comparison of 3.5mm and 6.3mm, because they both do the same thing but with different form factors and different advantages. Wireless audio performs the same base task as wired but it doesn't do the same thing.
VincentEvans 3y ago
Conversely, I miss: - dedicated “home” button instead of the fancy “swipe up” - because of how frequently my toddler accidentally swipes up when playing her games. Or how often I enter the “expose” mode when trying to drag something like an email near the bottom of the screen. - power button located on top, rather than on the side where i typically hold my phone because of how many times I accidentally lock the screen that stops the video i was listening to when trying to grab my phone, or accidentally take a screenshot of the lock screen when trying to insert the phone into the cradle in my car. - the small size of the original iphone which was tiny rather than the modern versions that keep getting larger. - and yes, I miss the damn stereo connector which allowed me to charge the phone while playing audio without dealing with bluetooth. I wish they released “iphone classic” the size of the original iphone with modern insides and hardware buttons in places where they used to be.

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coldpie 3y ago

It's not ideal, but the USB-C-to-3.5mm adapters work well enough. They do break, so buy a handful. I'd prefer the jack, but I can (and do) live with this.

_bohm 3y ago
Yup, they work. It really just seems like quite an unnecessary frustration to have to bring one everywhere, and to not be able to charge my phone while listening to music
- coldpie 3y ago
  They do make combo charge & listen adapters. I've got one from Anker, works fine.
asah 3y ago
plus, you can use an external higher-quality DAC...
- astrange 3y ago
  The official DAC is just as good or better than most alternatives, who can't actually afford to develop something to match their marketing. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... Google's adapter is not as good. It's okay though.
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faeriechangling 3y ago

I saw the introduction of MagSafe as being a quality of life thing for headphone users that use lighting-to-3.5 or usb-to-3.5 adapters, since it allows for charging and headphone usage simultaneously. Just keep the adapter plugged into your headphones. I don't really see the sense in them adding back the headphone port given the form factor and the viable alternatives.